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    Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 10:00pm

Ok, time to get this thread back on track; it wasnt intended to be a debate on what is / isnt a skiff.  I am most likely going to get an 800, there are a number at the club where I sail and from what I've found out so far it meets all the criteria.  The budget will be around £3000 + what I can get for the 4000 (hopefully £>2500).

The main question is running costs; I know sails are cheaper than they are for the 4000 but I'd like to know about their longevity.  Does any of the running rigging (inc cunningham, kicker, halyards etc.) wear excessively that it frequently needs replacing and given normal use what is wear like on sheets (ultimately what are the sheet loads like?).  Is there anything else that needs replacing often?

Also is there a dedicated 800 forum anywhere? 

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[QUOTE=Hugh]Cheers for that.  I am looking for a proper skiff this time as well; should have mentioned that before.  L5000, boss, spice are  to conventional and boat like; perhaps moreso than the 4000. 

Both the 5000 and Boss are older designs, but I'd still say they are skiffs and far from conventional, try sailing either the boats.

I sailed the 4 & 5000s I'd say the 5 is just as much a skiff as the 4000

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Originally posted by Hugh

Cheers for that.  I am looking for a proper skiff this time as well; should have mentioned that before.  L5000, boss, spice are  to conventional and boat like; perhaps moreso than the 4000. 

Both the 5000 and Boss are older designs, but I'd still say they are skiffs and far from conventional, try sailing either the boats.

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Just to settle this, its going to be an 800 because there are 4 (soon to be 5) others at the club where I sail!
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If money is an issue then you wont be buying a new boat and older 14s and cherubs tend to hold their value pretty well...

Whats your budget?
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Cheers for that.  I am looking for a proper skiff this time as well; should have mentioned that before.  L5000, boss, spice are  to conventional and boat like; perhaps moreso than the 4000. 

Cherud, I14 etc will depreciate too fast.  I am at university and money doesnt grow on trees at the moment unfortunately.

The 49er is the other option as far as I see it.  I sailed one a couple of weeks ago and loved it; but was acutely aware that the person I was sailing with was making life easy for me.  I dont think either myself for my crew are good enough.  And as with some others running costs are likely to be too high.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Isis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 Nov 05 at 7:54pm
Cant help much about the 800 but Id agree that its probibly your best bet, twin wire you dont have many options...

I14 (probibly more than you want on running costs)
RS800 (as you mentioned, likely to be your best bet IMO)
49er (like a hardcore RS800 I supose, could also be an option)
Boss/5k (both dying classes unfortunately but fantastic on a budget)
Spice (no class to speak of)
Cherub (well, it had to be said. small fleets but very friendly)

Theres also a whole load of cats if you want to go down that route but someone else would be better placed to rant about them.

Good luck though
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I'm not normally the sort of person to post on these boards but here goes.

I'm going to move up from the 4000 I currently sail sometime next year.  I want it to be twin wire and have a decent fleet which narrows the choice a bit! 

The 800 is the obvious choice and should be in budget.  The main question really is running costs.  What insurance premiums do you pay, how quickly do you get through sails, how much cordage is it necessary to replace annually to keep it in just so etc. etc.?

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