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Strawberry ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1337 |
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Thats what i'm mo fo'in chattin about!
Apart from the fact it would be flying the windward hull, and the leeward hull would probably down the mine! |
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riding shotgun ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 13 Aug 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 28 |
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wow, that would be so kool...........why not keep two sails and literally just stick two int moths together....could be a new directions for sailing, playing two mailns and entually a spinny as well
i'd buy 1 |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Aren't the Cherubs almost a moth hull design, with the added sail area and the ability to carry 2 crew members? Have a look at the various designs........ (Andy Cherub's boat is pretty thin comparabile to some of the old moth designs). For the Cat idea, why not just buy a cat? Probably cheaper and a lot faster in the long run. Competitive Hurricane 5.9s are going for about £2-3K. Would love to see a moth design go faster than them
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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True, but its not always about the speed its about the 'apparent speed'
and an 11ft cat would be a blast in a bit of breeze trying to keep the
hulls from digging in.
As for moth/cherub hulls I suppose cherubs are about as close to a 2-handed moth as your going to get (except the tiger moth in the other thread) and the Paterson design moths/cherubs tend to share quite a few design features but a minimum chine width restriction keeps them pretty wide by moth standards even in the new generation boats like aqua |
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49erGBR735HSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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There are only three boats that have totally got me inspired, the Hurricane 5.9, Tornado and 49er....(the reason that I sail the 9er is because I haven't been on a boat that can get me totaly addicted to her through pure adrenaline and have a very experienced crew scared of even looking at her after sailing her a few times). I have sailed both the fore-mentioned cats in pretty extreme conditions, F5 and upwards. The pure speed of the cats was what really got me excited on these boats. Although they are pretty long, when you realise what's actually going on, the buzz is phenominal. If you manufacture a cat based on moth dimensions, it might be a blast to sail but when you get Dart 15s and 16s overtaking you easily, and 5.9s and Tornados lapping you like there is no tommorrow it might take the thrill away. There are 16 ft development cat classes (F16s) which would definately be a good alternative to this idea......... (basically the cherubs of the cat classes). There are classes like the Stealth 18 which are utilising a lot of new developments too, not to mention the F18s. Is it really worth thinking about a "moth" cat?
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les5269 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1530 |
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Changing the subject slightly for adrenalin rush the 9er is amazing like 49erGBR735HSC(you need a shorter name (scared me to death |
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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1. What the hell is going on with that cat? Does it fly or something? Is it somewhere to hang your washing? Or do you do those flippy swingy gymnastics between the two bars? Must be a load of fun on a startline or at a mark rounding... 2. That doublehanded moth...looks to me like it's being helmed by an extra from Planet of the Apes. 3. The moth cat thingy rocks. Top photoshopping skills, I am impressed. If I sent you a pic of my boat, could you possibly do me a similar version, with the thing flat, trimmed, the kite up the right way and both crew in the boat? 4. Cheap 5000 (£1000) going at Draycote if anyone wants one... |
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Cheeky ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59 |
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Dude that's what you were on at the Cherub Nationals!!!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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Cheeky ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 59 |
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don't you mean like this!
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Isis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2753 |
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Thanks Iain, drop me an email with a pic or two and a description and ill see what I can do... ben@flatwater.co.uk |
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