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    Posted: 14 Oct 05 at 10:14pm

  Would like comments on the xenon, not just from the racing point of veiw

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Are you thinking of purchasing one?
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yes and no

just try to make a chosse between half a dozon boats

L2000 RS VISIION ETC

got to be big enough for the wife and maybe to small kids

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For me it falls a bit between two stalls. Although it is pretty heavy it does
get up a go. And isn't handling vice free. So if you are thinking about
more of a cruiser with the kids, put the tucker in the dry boxes (not so
dry on the one we had) e.t.c For me it isn't stable enough. If you are
thinking about club racing I think there are boats that are more refined
out there. Have a look on the Endeavour thread for other comments, as I
don't feel I should say to much publicly, positively or negatively. As
topper and The Royal Corinthian did a dam good job of organising the
event and without them the event wouldn't happen. It is a pretty tall ask
to get a boat to suit all competing classes and it was a good boat for the
task. best thing to do is sail them all.
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Interesting feedback. so you reckon the Xenon isn't a good choice as a fast
family boat?

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No I think its fine as a fastish hassel free family boat. Could may be do
with a little better detailing in only one of two areas but its built for a
price, and that's fine. I was just saying that in my opinion, most people
that take the family out would want a little more stability. It's quite a big
rig and as a father knowing what it is like with the kids on board I think it
could be a handful. But I'm not that big (11st, wife is 8st) so it's a bit
different for me. If you were good sized adults it is maybe a different
matter. But it isn't a sit back and chill boat unless you reef it which you
can do. So if you are a good size, an OK sailor, want to race and sail with
the family, hassel free I'm sure it going to be great.

But (and this is where I'm not sure about it) if you can't be bothered with
upkeep on a boat (it's sales USP...Rotomold), doesn't that suggest that
you won't sail very much and it will spend most of it's life in the garden
and then that suggests that you won't be the best sailor around which
means you would probably like something that isn't going to chuck you
and the family out into the wet stuff? see my point?
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Thanks, useful feedback. So something like a Vision could be a better bet?

Regarding the low upkeep, you could argue that it means you'll spend more
time on the water because you're not faffing around with gelcoat repair kits
and so end up being a better sailor...
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Originally posted by Jack Sparrow


But (and this is where I'm not sure about it) if you can't be bothered with
upkeep on a boat (it's sales USP...Rotomold), doesn't that suggest that
you won't sail very much and it will spend most of it's life in the garden
and then that suggests that you won't be the best sailor around which
means you would probably like something that isn't going to chuck you
and the family out into the wet stuff? see my point?
 
Have to disagree here JS. One of my reasonings for buying the Xenon was that as a busy family man my spare time is precious. I didn't want to spend it maintaining a boat - I want to spend the time sailing it, which is entirely opposite to your thinking. As I will be spending proportionately more time in the boat I will become a better sailor and less likely to dunk my family...
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MB...That's cool. I'm sure that's what the topper guys were thinking when
they put it together. And they are more likely to be right than me. I'm a
development sailor so it probably clouds my judgment on these things as
I like fiddling as much as sailing.
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Another opinion - taken from another website

"Dare I say "it does what it says on the tin".
It was better than expected ...it is a heavy boat... GP14 weight ....good tanks for kids to sit on or out. Needs refining in certain areas like the jib sheet mounting tracks and cleats. Move the spinni cleat onto deck ... sort out kite downhaul patches to make the kite completely vanish into chute. 2 Dustbin sized hatches are excellent ....fit a small child in one! Looks Merlinish cos of the width but nowhere near as tippy as there is substantially more wetted area. Small furling jib good for kids. Any water in the boat goes out of the back tubes.
Zipper on main to reef it ...we didnt use it ..although tempted on Saturday!
The price should sell it.  Try before buy.

I think it fits the bill for the event perfectly - fine for racing and no-one had any massive advantage. (Obviously its rather more like an RS400 than a Cherub so its not an entirely level playing feild).



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