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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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L2K has a good class assoc and a good bunch of people sailing them ,
not saying that Xenon or Vago don't or won't, just that L2K got
there first and they've stolen a march on the rest
Seem well built but a bit heavy on the trailer on land, asymetric makes life easy downwind for the novice crew, sheet loads aren't too bad ... don't sail one meeself, just know a few folks who do |
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BBSCFaithfull ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1251 |
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Having not sailed a Xenon or A Vision first hand i cannot comment. The only plastic boats i have sailed unfortunately have been fevas and the Omega. Both were completely awful to sail. I can however HIGHLY recomend the 2000. It is a fantastic bit of kit, very stable for what it is.Really gets a move on in the bigger winds (force 8 3 up!
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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Marine Boy, how are you getting on with the Xenon?
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IanMitchell ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 11 |
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As of about 9.30 this morning when I spoke to Topper, 19 of the 30 have been reserved. You can reserve at that price for £500 deposit, £440 of which is refundable if you change your mind after a trial. Laser are also offering a boat show deal on Laser 2000s, which knocks about £700 off the list price of a brand new 2000 with cover and combi, they want a £100 fully refundable deposit.
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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No problems with the kids - they love sailing. Wife may want a bit more
comfort though. On second thoughts, I could leave her at the bar ;) I asked a guy on the Topper stand about fitting a trapeze to the Xenon and he was very hesitant before reluctantly agreeing you could fit one. Not sure why he reacted in that way. I've sailed a Vision and a Laser 2000, I'll try to get a demo in the Xenon ASAP Phil |
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NickA ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 30 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 784 |
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The xenon's so wide you could probably sit the kids in the bottom and they'd never have to see the water! But I'd agree with Marine Boy it's keeping the kids away from the water that's the problem after a bit. Trapeze on a 6ft wide, designed-for-hiking boat - wow, who needs racks!! Should be good in a force 8 or so...... unless the fittings rip out the plastic that is. |
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Marine Boy ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Sep 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 42 |
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A buddy of mine has a Stratos and the children have fights over who gets to lean against the stainless hoop on the thwart. The thwart seat is perfect for little ones security in terms of something to grab hold of if they are worried. Once children get over their inital concerns you might have trouble getting them to sit in! Your wife might be more of a concern though...
I'm off to the show tommorow to introduce my wife to the Xenon...hope she likes it...or I'll be looking for a budding trapeze artist !
I might have opted for a vision had I not experienced at first hand how badly built they were.
Think you should sail them both...then you'll know
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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Had a good look at a Xenon at the Boat Show. Looks very tempting. My only
slight concern is whether it will be too 'sit on' for my small kids and non- sailing wife. The RS Vision, for instance, has a deeper cockpit. Phil |
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Philsy ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 344 |
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Trapeze? Nah, lead weights around my waist ![]() |
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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Eeh tell me about it! Tree trunk, eh? Can you trapeze it? |
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