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    Posted: 02 Sep 05 at 5:51pm
Originally posted by simsy

Well I wouldnt reccomend the Vago, anything has gotta be better then that.

I would recomend the Vago, in terms of size it isn' t that much different than the L2000, but has the advantage of a gnav instead of a vang giving more room for crew. It also has a much larger sail area and a larger genacker making it a racier boat particularly downwind on the plane. It is also has the advantage of being cheaper than the L2000.
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I sailed one the other day, it was blowing about a force 5. I honestly found this boat rockier then an 800. I found it difficult to to keep the crew out on the wire, and was constantly looking to get more power out of the main, as the boat just kept wanting to capsize on top of us.

Plus the mast looks like a scafold pole, we went swimmin a couple of times, as soon as your over, we found the boat turn turtle almost instantly, then just to add to the fun, the centerplate fell down.

I personally wasnt impressed, and everyone else that I spoke to last week that had tried it, wasnt completly satisifed either.



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I suspect the Vago is too small for my needs, but it sounds a good bit of kit.
Why do you not recommend it, Simsy?

Redback, I reckon the Xenon will be faster and more fun than the L2000 and
Vision, so a good in-between boat.

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I don't think you should write the Vago off quite so glibly.  However its not the same sort of boat as the others mentioned here.  I see the Vago as a boat which would be sailed by people learning how to use a trapeze and race, whereas the Laser2K, the Xenon and the Vision are more for cruising/racing.
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Well I wouldnt reccomend the Vago, anything has gotta be better then that.
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One thing that might be a consideration is that its a pretty heavy boat - the manufacturers quote 118 kg which is between an Enterprise and a GP14. This is probably inevitable with a thermoplastic boat of this size in the present state of the art, but could be quite a bit of weight to tow round the dinghy park.
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I agree re the L2000 - expensive and not as durable for family use.

I liked the Vision to sail but wasn't happy with the finish - that kite cover is
ugly.

Look forward to hearing how you get on with the Xenon. I was going to try it
this Friday, but work got in the way :(
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I like the look of the L2K but it is expensive (in comparison) and I am not too keen on damage repairs to GRP. I have sailed the Vision, but the kite/pole pulley block pulled straight out and couldn't easily be fixed (brand new boat). The kite cover (a dark grey plastic moulding) buckled very badly in the sun. All in all, for quality I would go for the L2K but I'm hoping the Xenon will fit the bill for the excitement bit and better build quality than RS. I will be trying the Xenon out next week so will report back.
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I'm looking for something similar, and the Xenon is on my list.

Vision and L2000 are essentially similar - great boats but not particularly
exciting, which is where I hope the Xenon will deliver.

Vago is a smaller boat than the Xenon, so less good for kids (which are
going to get bigger, remember!)

Be interested to hear how you get on.

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Hello to all,
Please go gentle, this is my first post...am looking for an exciting, forgiving club racer with occasional use with young children.
Anybody got any opinions, experience of the Xenon in comparison to L2K, Vision etc
Anything else in the 'low maintenance' bracket I should consider?
Thanks
 
 
 
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