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    Posted: 04 Jul 05 at 6:10pm
Anything else bar aft mainsheet is gonna cause massive problems for your crew in such a short boat.  And I always found the gaff made no difference to rigging speed, as its still just one halyard after all, just attached to a different part (well, two halyards including jib).  Plus it meant that the short mast could be stepped singlehanded.
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Originally posted by stuarthop

i used to have a 2 yr old race rigged mirror and i hated it aft mainsheet(totaly piontless just ties you up i n knots), that stupid gaff which makes it harder to rig. Just was not an enjoyable boat to race. So I went bact to optimists for another 2 years before moving into proper boats.

The UK class has just voted to allow all alloy spars and a bermuda rig,  and centre main,  this will make the Mirror a proper little race boat

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I find the gunter rig less hastle than bemudian because once it is rigged the mainsail can be hoisted and dropped quickly and easily without having to feed it into the mast every time, the aft mainsheet is less likely to tie you up in knots and the only reason you think it is harder to rig is because you are too blinkered to famelierise yourself with other methods of standing rigging and because it is the shape of a boat instead of a packing case it is more of a "proper" boat than an oppie and handicaps mean that speed or the lack of it is not an issue
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a mirror is most definatly a worse boat than an oppie!!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Black no sugar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jul 05 at 10:00pm

Leave the poor boy alone Stu...  
Don't you think it's quite a feat to write the whole paragraph without breathing?

And don't you admire the divination skills:

Originally posted by peter our Mirror supporter

the only reason you think it is harder to rig is because you are too blinkered to famelierise yourself with other methods of standing rigging

Come on, Pete... chill out!  It's great to be loyal to a class, but you've got to admit there are more state-of-the-art objects floating around.
(no rude comments, please )

 

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Can I have the last word on Mirrors before we continue with Vagos.  There is no point about talking absolute speed with sail boats - most people can ride a bike much faster than any sail boat!  However the Mirror is an extremely responsive little boat.  Did you know that stunt planes often have the ends cut off their wings to reduce inertia.  Similarly the chopped off bow gives the Mirror very light ends and you can feel it when steering.  Its one of the many charms of this very versitile boat.

Having read the Vago test in Y&Y I'd say this could turn out to be a significant  design.  I look forward to seeing one in the flesh especially as the finish looks good compared to other rotomoulded designs.

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Originally posted by stuarthop

a mirror is most definatly a worse boat than an oppie!!
what gives you that idea?
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Originally posted by redback

 the chopped off bow gives the Mirror very light ends and you can feel it when steering. 

I think you'll find the chopped off ends just make it shorter...



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it also allows more volume in the bow underwater so that buoyancy distribution is improved

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