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    Posted: 30 Jun 05 at 6:13pm
Yes, Yes, Y... Y... Y...Yes, Ohhhh.....Yes!

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No No Yes Yes  
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NO, YES, Yes, Yes.

I definitely think anyone who races in class events should be a member of the CA. I also think anyone who wants access to information about rigging, tuning, building, designing etc should be 'encouraged' to join the CA by getting their money's worth. We have a lot of pretty generic information on the 'open access' website, with loads more specific stuff available to members, including a 'member-only' forum/email list.

 

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Post Options Post Options   Quote *GM* Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Jun 05 at 7:25pm

No, no, no and no.

Not that there is actually a class association anyway. 

If a class association is doing their job properly and sailors feel that joining will add value to their sailing, they'll join.  If not, they won't and they shouldn't be compelled to - unless they're doing class events organised by the class association.

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Yes

Yes

Reason: The very fact there is a class assosiation makes your boat a class.

Yes

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No, Yes if fleet racing in a class with a class captain (who would be the conduit to the CA), no if handicapping in a mixed fleet (as unenforcable), yes, and yes.
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I think another mechanism is required to fund CA's that lowers the admin and stops the "free loading".

Build a very small figure into the club subs and make the clubs pay the CA's.

To keep the admin simple only fleets with 5 or more boats need pay.

OR may RYA memberhsip compulsory at club level and then the RYA fund the CA's that would be even easier.

OR build it into insurance - everyone HAS to have that.

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THE VOTE:

I think CA membership should be compulsory for all club members: NO

I think CA membership should be compulsory for all racing club members: NO

Main reason:
IT IS UNENFORCEABLE
Bringing in rules that can not be enforced is pointles, Forcing people to prove they have joined a CA will stop people from wanting to take part.

Do YOU want to be the person standing with a clip board telling people to go home?

I am a CA member: YES

I am a CA committee member: NO


I think everyone should join but they should WANT to join. I do not want to belong to a club (which is what a CA is ) that has members that do not want to be members

 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Ian S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 05 at 12:37pm

Hmm, interesting food for thought.. might start looking at how I can ignore the 2 boat length rule at the mark.. the RYA can't force me to do it so it's pretty unenforceable.. the admin in a protest is too much as well.. don't get me wrong I think that people should follow the rule if they really want to.. and are perhaps sailing at an ISAF event.. but at club level.. not really no.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote yellowhammer Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Jul 05 at 1:07pm
Originally posted by Guest#260

I think another mechanism is required to fund CA's that lowers the admin and stops the "free loading".

Just a thought ... how about the builders make a significant contribution?

Some CAs adminiter their OD builder licences and charge a fee. Some SMOD builders are better than others. That way the builder is funding a service for their buyers.

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