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    Posted: 14 Jun 05 at 6:53am

Originally posted by 5420

i like contenders but i would like a more moden boat

Don't forget that Contenders can now have a full carbon rig, loose footed sails and high tech sail cloths. So you can see the Contender has been modernised.

The only problem with Contenders at the moment is that second hand boats are selling very quickly and it is difficult to find good ones.

Other question for you - can you trapeze yet?

Best piece of advice though would be to sail the same boat as someone else at your club, just for the help you can get.

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if i was going to get that kind of boat being i sail at graham i would get a 600 or a 700 if i could aford it because there are lots there

and yes i can trapeze

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what do people think about the laser vortex with there new kite

they look good fun and they are quit cheap

 

still not made my minde up

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The 600 is the boat I'd go for, you'd get a really good one for under your budget but if a 700 comes up within your budget go for that.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Matt Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Jun 05 at 12:55pm
Originally posted by 5420

what do people think about the laser vortex with there new kite

they look good fun and they are quit cheap

 

still not made my minde up

You know what? This is a great place to get a hundred opinions but there is only one that counts - and that's yours(sorry before I edited this it looked like I meant mine ). I've been accused of persecuting the Vortex in the past so all I'll say is try sailing as many classes as you can - I've only had one person sail my boat (and trapezed) that didn't say they wanted one afterwards - and that one  person bought one a year later anyway.

Of course my opinion is that the Contender would always be the best boat to choose and some of the drawbacks are greatly lessened by being small/light. The Contender is a dog (for me) until I'm on the wire and I have to let the kicker off to tack. But the Contender has been around for a long time and has a very stable/very competitive open circuit attendance (check the stats on Y&Y). It also has a very simple but tweakable rig meaning that lightweights can be surprisingly competitive.

A drawback, and I suspect for you it might be a big one, is that it has no plans to put a kite on it (and never will).



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i know the 600 and 700 are nice boats but i want to consider all the opshons

 

dose any one have any info on the vortex

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Matt has hit it spot on, try the boats you're considering and see which one suits you best because us all having different opinions will mean that we all are biased to certain boats. As has been mentioned before look at the strong classes in your area and seriously consider sailing one of those because you get so much more out of being part of a strong class. I still say the 600 or 700 are your best option though
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Buy a cheap 600 and save up for a MPS better option than wasting good money on a 700
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Try as many as you can but also take a view on the future of the class.

Many of the new classes ahve been through a boom a bust cycle and more look set to bust ... this leaves owners with a boat worth little

Seems that the UK on it's own is not enough to sustain a new class. Few exceptions e.g. RS200.

The 29er and 49er have good international fleets and the MPS has sold over 50% of the boats overseas so it's looking good for the long term.

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Good idea about buying a cheap 600 and saving for the MPS. It will provide you with a positive aim for the future and the 600 will give you the basics for moving into the MPS. The 600 is well established but I reckon the MPS is the boat to keep an eye on for the future as I'm sure many others will agree...
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