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Tom9 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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hi, before i confuse anyone this is an old topic! how does a contender compare to a 600? is 65kg to light even if i am just doing club racing for fun? is it a good boat to learn to wire and helm together on? thanks!
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ColH ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 11 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 242 |
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I've not sailed a 600, but I believe (partly from knowledge of how the Blaze rig was improved) that the large roach gives a sail which is always keen to get itself powered up. The hull is also pretty narrow - surprisingly so when you look at the underneath. I have sailed a Contender, and tho' I'd trapezed before, I found it reasonably forgiving *. Certainly a good boat to learn helm+wire, I'd say. It does fairly poor on handicap against things like Lasers in lightish wind - you need to be on the wire with full power to get the better of them. I was probably about 65kg when I sailed one, and did find I was slightly lightish. But a lot of it is about technique, needless to say. If you want something new, a bit of fun, and can get one fairly cheap then its def a boat worth trying - great fun to sail and get really cracking along, and so elegant with it. * - forgiving enough to be able to teabag yourself, floating there with feet a foot or so from the gunwhale and yet still possible to save it and not result in windward capsize! Edited by ColH |
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Splosh ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 497 |
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I have a 600 and have club raced it since i was 60kg and I'm now about 67kg and still loving it. I admit i hav'nt sailed a contender so what i say could be tosh but... The good thing about the 6 is that every boat is the same however old it is, Also there very very easy to maintain All I can say about the condender is you can't beat it's looks!
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Kudlinski ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 18 Sep 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 132 |
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the contender is easier to sail than the 600 in my opnion, I have had 3 600s, 630, 652 and 655 they are good boats and as long as yo go for the super spars rig you will have no problems. If you are learning to wire though it may be best to go for a contender as they tend to be cheaper than a 600 if looking at the lower end of the market. Also you are wiring of the gunwhale rather than racks which may make the learning curve easier I picked my contender up for £250 hell of a boat for the money in my opinion. Edited by Kudlinski |
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Tom9 ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 10 |
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thanks everyone
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Black no sugar ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Dec 04 Location: Somewhere between Brighton and Lancing Online Status: Offline Posts: 3941 |
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I've never sailed a 600 but, if you believe Prince Buster who's in that weight range, lighter guys on a 600 face quite a challenge (even with the small rig). There are plenty of very competitive Contender sailors who weigh hardly 60 kgs (I saw a few tall slim ladies who knew exactly what they were doing at the Worlds last year). Of course, it's going to be a bit tricky to handle the boat in a real blast and/or in strong gusts but I think the Contender is far more forgiving than the 600, and definitely cheaper!
Contender443 might be able to help if you're looking for a second-hand boat, he's got a few these days! |
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DaveL ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Oct 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 111 |
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I looked briefly at 600's when i bought my contender and decided that for relatively little money you can get a sound boat which is great fun. Picked up 443 for only £350. As for weight, i have never sailed the 600, the spread of weight ranges in the contender class is large as far as i know with sailors going from 60Kg all the way up to 100kg.
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Olly4088 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 424 |
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All sorry for staring a up an old thread again but I am picking up my first contender this weekend fingers crossed but it hasnt got a road base. My question is will russ's 300 road base do the job. If it helps the boat is on a standard contender launching trolley
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Olly4088 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 424 |
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Cheers James 100 on order I see. |
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Olly4088 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 10 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 424 |
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also has anyone who has a contender got any tips on sailing them.
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