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    Posted: 02 Aug 05 at 1:21pm
Yes I was impressed with the GNAV standing up to Yabs attentions, esp
as it wasn't looking to good before we started the tuning! The best bit is
as we were doing the tuning in full mid day sun the GNAV boom bracket
actually remoulded it's self into a new shape!! Post curing for it next time
in the oven!
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that boy is a legend. Not quite sure how your boat survived the punishment that it went through with his "tuning" mind you! I was a bit wary of him having a look at mine after that
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 05 at 1:02pm
OZ cherub may well not be called a skiff down in the Southern Hem, but
the UK Cherub ( twin wire, 15.5sqm up wind & 21sqm kite ) plains up
wind and down in all but the very lightest of wind. So in my book its a
skiff. Esp when the current 12ft skiff interdoms champ casts his eye over
it and has no probs with the term skiff.
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As I think was said in a prevous thread..........

If you can call it a skiff at Belmont Skiff Club (Sydney) and walk out without a broken nose......  Then it is a skiff.  49er, Cherub, B14 and RS boats ect you had better be quick on your feet at Belmont.

I understand that the Northern Hemisphere have a different view on what a skiff is but in the eyes of OZ and NZ, unless you have seen and sailed a skiff, you just don't understand what a skiff is.

Flame away guys.

Best skiff.......

12 footer (not cherub) - is the craziest

18 footer - fastest and most power.

16 footer - best class racing local.

14 footer - best international racing.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 9:38pm
yer i thick i profer crewing
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the helm has a lot of mental work to do whereas the crews role is more a physical one.

its like a light wind race is ofter more exausting than when its blowing old boots.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 4:40pm
I'd agree with that.

One of the big reasons the crew takes a load more work off the Helm is
because the dam thing is going so fast that that any slight wobble in your
course has a massive effect on getting wet or not. It also get's pretty
complicated when twin wiring if the crew hasn't got the sheet for the poor
old bugger at the back. :-)
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The helm (me on our boat) has to control the jib, consider the tactics, evaluate the rig settings for the boat relevant to the way she feels, control both main  and jib downwind whilst steering the relevant course.... and basically the helming part of the boat keeps her up-right and fast. You need to do a lot to keep the boat going fast, but you do get lazy helms but in proportion, they don't go as fast. The misconception is that on a skiff, the crew DOES do a lot of work but at the same time, the helm is doing a lot too. Just because the crew swaps the jib for the main, doesn't automatically mean the helm does less. Remember, skiffs are more responsive boats and demand much more skill from a helm than a conventional boat. From my point of veiw, the skiff duties are 50/50, because one part of the team being innaffective, drastically affects the performance of the boat. I put as much effort into crewing a boat as I do helming, but the roles are different. Maybe its down to the individual effort you put into sailing from your point of veiw. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Apr 05 at 1:00pm
the only problem with a skiff is the helm dose nothing all he dose is stears
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If everybody comes in after sailing with a story and a smile that is a sign of a good skiff class.

I've sailed 12 14 and 18's and they are all different. 

The Grand Prix 18's were awsome, upwind nothing came close but your were a bit removed from the action being out on the wings, I don't think the current 18's are as good but there are more of them

The 14 was great upwind, even better now, but boring downwind, but I gather better now than before

The 12 is not so much fun upwind but nothing comes close to it downwind, not speedwise but fun and technique testing. Try gybing in 30 knots and big waves with a 300sqft kite

You will find though most real skiff classes as compared to the SMOD have people that have sailed them for 20-30 years, as the sign of a skiff is that the boats are always evolving and the 12 I sailed 20 years ago is nothing like what I am sailing now.

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