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Prometheus ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 26 Jun 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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Hell yes! Shortie the first day, but went borrowed full wetsuit for the second as sialing a friends 4k instead... and you know what... the shortie wasnt all that cold! Did the job well enough, it can help hiking when your legs are numb |
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Prometheus ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 26 Jun 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 18 |
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Not quite! My helm, his crew and other friend who broke his rudder! Helm wasnt too happy when i deserted him for a 4000... but then he WAS trying to force me to sail 3 up, 4k was... wet |
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ratface ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 686 |
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BarnsieB14768 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 126 |
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Hi Hector How are the fingers and toes feeling now. Monday was agony cycling to work but today much better. Not sure if we're getting to old for those sort of temperatures and waiting around for the next race. See you soon. Got flattened on Sunday on the reach across the far shore and planted on the run by one hell of a gust but no rudder cavitation, just extreme force. Hoo Freezer is the next excursion and at least there will not be so much waiting and hopefully more consistent breeze. Bye for now |
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Hector ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Location: Otley, Yorkshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 750 |
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Thanks for the advice - and that from Chris & Sten & others. I'm learning the 29er and had thought that in some conditions, it seemed quick sailing it on its chine (bit like railing a board). But on Sunday, just like a board it was prone to 'spin out' (Where skeg/foil loses flow and so control) - especially if we bounced out sideways over a wave. It certainly didn't help that we were trying to carry a kite on a leg that hardly any other boat was - and the boats coming the opposite direction on a collision course certainly made it interesting. I was worried about sheeting out the main as I've seen photos of 29er masts hugely inverted (and that one of a 49er) and so I'm not suprised a couple broke. Sanme applies to flogging the kite too much as the sudden loads could also snap a mast. As its a temporary reduction of speed we're after I guess in future I'll try the oversheet kite method before main out or flog - if I ever have to tight reach in a F6 again! Let's hope so G.R.F. Thanks for so graphically reminding me of what happens when spinning out a Mistral SST with a stupidly big rig on and then catching the rail. Cheaper than a health clinic! Edited by Hector |
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Chris Bridges ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 699 |
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The one of the 49er was because a cap shroud snapped, not because the main was sheeted out, although sheeting it in probably does help! The mast should be fine with flogging as long as you don't let it flog more than a few times, once should be enough to get the rudder back, and then oversheet it and let it out again. |
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49er GBR735 (for sale) - Rutland SC
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Dryshirt UK ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 03 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 12 |
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Has anyone located any pictures from the event other than those on the Rutland SC site ?
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ifoxwell ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Jan 06 Location: Hoo Online Status: Offline Posts: 669 |
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And I thought it was just me that had trouble with 29er foils letting go. Racing round the cans on a river we often have some tight reaches to contend with and it’s a not an uncommon problem when the wind is up. I also find that some heal is good as there also comes a point when the foils start to generate some lift and you can climb to windward. I find that if the boats well trimmed you get a couple of seconds from the rudder loosing bite before things get scary so I normally warn the crew then try and flatten the boat gently while wiggling the tiller from side to side. Not sure how this came about, probably developed from a panic reaction but it seems to work for us. Lost the crew through the jib the first time it happened but we have managed to save it every time since Ian |
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Chris Bridges ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 14 Nov 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 699 |
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Winggling the rudder is like appling the handbrake on and off really quikcly, not good for boat speed, up wind to keep the boat flat and get the rudder back you should be playing the main and heading up and bearing away when you see the gusts. It does seem to go quicker with a bit of heel, but it doesn't i don't think, and if it did its pretty small and it doesn't make up for the fact you don't have much control/ the chance of loosing control totally and havign to slow down. Downwind its just simply trying to get the boat flat, oversheet spinnaker or 1 flog. |
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49er GBR735 (for sale) - Rutland SC
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