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    Posted: 17 Aug 21 at 7:39pm
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I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a coaching day, it's something the RS classes do very well.
2000s are more of a proper class than Argo, I think, there are probably more people racing them regularly. But I'm not sure a change of boat will help much unless it gives you boats of the same class to learn form?

Ha, I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a council landfill. Bloody ridiculous boat.
In my view, it's not a particularly great boat, however it provides good sport for those who race them against other RS200s and is a reasonable entry into the world of asy spinnakers.
As a class it has a considerable pool of talent, including some good people who are willing and able to share their knowledge. It's hard to find a better class in the >1000 PY asy category.


Well my experience is exactly the opposite, the last couple I knew bought one brand new.. they haven't sailed since, who the heck recommended it I've no idea, but having good people making it look benevolent in a world in which we need every new participant, is entirely counter productive, should take them all and lock them up as well..
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I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a coaching day, it's something the RS classes do very well.
2000s are more of a proper class than Argo, I think, there are probably more people racing them regularly. But I'm not sure a change of boat will help much unless it gives you boats of the same class to learn form?

Ha, I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a council landfill. Bloody ridiculous boat.


In my view, it's not a particularly great boat, however it provides good sport for those who race them against other RS200s and is a reasonable entry into the world of asy spinnakers.

As a class it has a considerable pool of talent, including some good people who are willing and able to share their knowledge. It's hard to find a better class in the >1000 PY asy category.
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Originally posted by eric_c

I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a coaching day, it's something the RS classes do very well.
2000s are more of a proper class than Argo, I think, there are probably more people racing them regularly. But I'm not sure a change of boat will help much unless it gives you boats of the same class to learn form?

Ha, I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a council landfill. Bloody ridiculous boat.
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Who knows how much difference a lightweight boat makes? It clearly makes some difference. If I intended to race a class and lightweight ones were available, I'd be a bit daft not to try and find one.

Here's an old thread with more opinion:
https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=9020

Several years ago 2k weighing at the club took place. I was there and witnessed a horrendous (by boat building standards) weight difference between several 2k's. It's no myth.

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There is massive weight variation with the Laser 2k. The older ones are reputedly lighter by a very significant margin. The older ones are much sought after by the serious 2k racers I believe.Since RS have taken the boat on I have no idea how they compare weight wise.


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There is massive weight variation with the Laser 2k. The older ones are reputedly lighter by a very significant margin. The older ones are much sought after by the serious 2k racers I believe.

Since RS have taken the boat on I have no idea how they compare weight wise.

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Thanks both
Confirmed what I thought I was seeing
Was never going to get rid of the 200, when the kite and our weight are just right it’s just great
Was kind of thinking of a back up boat
Am sorting out coaching now
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If you do change, go to the 2000. Argo is a nice training boat, butbthat is all. But the 200 is a lovely little boat, and as Eric says, make use of the Class Association to shorten the learning curve.
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I'd suggest taking the RS200 to a coaching day, it's something the RS classes do very well.
2000s are more of a proper class than Argo, I think, there are probably more people racing them regularly. But I'm not sure a change of boat will help much unless it gives you boats of the same class to learn form?
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