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Do Different
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Topic: first single handerPosted: 31 Jul 21 at 5:27am |
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For clarification. My Phantom all day long was purely for comfort, the racing side is always secondary to a nice sailing experience in my mind.
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 10:00pm |
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Far too much emphasis being put on your weight. At 95kg you would be just fine in a Laser, Solo or Solution. Once you can nail every start, perfect every roll tack, hike flat out for 30 minutes, spot every wind shift and polish your boat every race then you can worry about a boat that suits the extra 5-10kg.
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 7:36pm |
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Phantom all day long: originally designed specifically for your size and inland waters.
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wolfram
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 5:34pm |
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Yes - I ventured out in the club Fusion for the first time a couple of weeks ago - I managed to sail a triangular course, putting in tacks, gybes - close hauled up wind, hiking on a broad reach, and silently running with the dagger-board up. It was great fun! I was surprised how much I had remembered.
However, my tacking was appalling - I was completely at sixes and sevens - It can't have helped that I almost exclusively used aft sheeting in the past. Lots to remember, lots to learn (racing rules!) and lots to refine.
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epicfail
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 4:41pm |
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I returned to sailing after over 30 years off, it's like riding a bike etc -racing makes you better and it's great fun.
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wolfram
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 4:31pm |
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Thanks for the advice so far.
I have never owned a golf Good points about the racing with the fleet. The Solution is closest on PY to the lasers.
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 3:14pm |
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Some of those singlehanders you list are faster than anything you will be racing against? So you will have to be miles ahead and 'out of touch' with the fleet to be competitive? You might learn more racing something about the same speed as the other boats? A Laser with other Lasers to learn from is rarely a big mistake. But look at the people not just the boats. Who are the kind of people you relate to? If e.g. the Laser sailors are all very good young and serious maybe you'd have more fun focussing on other boats? Personally I consider the boats and sailors who will give me a good race on the water and I try not to worry about doing well on PY. The rooster 8.1 can be hard to sail to its PY, but it can keep you in touch with faster classes sometimes. Some people the OP's size and age are more supple and agile than I am. others will find things like the Laser awkward in light air and would be happier with a Finn or Phantom. If you are going to spend proper money, think perhaps beyond your own pond. Which classes have local opens or fleets with regattas? Which classes offer coaching? Which classes hold events in nice places you might want to sail? These are great ways to improve your game.
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 2:59pm |
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No question, get a *Phantom and trash the lot of them over the water, then joke as they trash you back on handicap, but you'll be out front, looking down the boom at them, you can do things like ask them why they can't keep up, oh and don't even hike, they love that, if you're just sat there. Take a flask, pour some coffee.. they like that even more, just don't offer them any.. Unless they can keep up of course..
*A recentish Epoxy Sandwich version built by say Vandercraft, or similar, they're dead easy to sail and at 95 kg I'd say you're heavy enough in the conditions you speak of. Edited by iGRF - 30 Jul 21 at 3:04pm |
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 2:54pm |
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Jeremy Clarkson once wrote that the answer to almost every "what car should I buy?". Was:- buy a Golf.
The boring sensible answer to "what singlehandedly should I buy?". Is buy a laser. You'll be sailing against other people, having competion, making friends and if you don't like it, you can easily sell it. |
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Posted: 30 Jul 21 at 2:16pm |
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I have experience (in the dim and distant past) of lots of rig controls on a national 12 so not that daunted by lots of string.
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