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    Posted: 21 Dec 19 at 6:19pm
Originally posted by tink

Originally posted by Do Different

I do understand it's rude to shout on the internet but for effect please forgive me in this case, a TWO PERSON boat. A team of two of any degree of fitness will exceed the sum of the individuals.

One to pull it up and one in water to stabilise and then one in to help the other aboard.  Plus, one to remember the course while the other drives the boat. LOL Wink

A single trapeze boat is also good, one to lounge on the wire while the other perches comfortably; works for us. Smile 

 

Good shout

Not so sure about a trap boat, may be ok on the coast but inland they require a degree of agility that I no longer have. 
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

That's remarkable, it weighs the same, all up, as an RS400!

The wonder of carbon fibre, the light rig puts less demand on the deep keel so it can be lighter. The clever bit IMHO was not going too far and fitting an asymmetric but using a club boom allowing easy goose winging.
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That's remarkable, it weighs the same, all up, as an RS400!
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Posts: 789 		Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Dec 19 at 5:42pm
Originally posted by Wiclif

The answer for me is the K1 with a lifting keel.

Still possible to push ashore on the trolley, lifting keel makes it self righting, and the carbon rig is powerful and makes the boat interesting even in lighter winds
A great boat, do you have a weed strategy? 
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Originally posted by Riv

As I'm responsible for our fleet of club Lasers and our older demographic don't like sailing them. I've just taken an old mainsail and shortened the leach by 37cm. This means the boom will be horizontal when  the mast is bent to the old block to block position with the traveller block on the gunwale. I'll see how it goes this year.

I have also moved the traveller 9" forward to remove the mainsheet around the stern thing. Works well.

There are other simple adaptions I can make to make the Laser easier for us older sailors for almost zero cost

I see no reason not to adapt boats to make them easier to sail within the club context. I'd rather have them used.
Nice ideas, I have frequently thought local  ‘benches’ a bit like the Maverick would make the Laser more comfortable while keeping the low free board and ease of righting 
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Good call. It seems to sail to its handicap throughout much of the wind range. 125kg though. Gentle concrete launching ramp needed!
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The answer for me is the K1 with a lifting keel.

Still possible to push ashore on the trolley, lifting keel makes it self righting, and the carbon rig is powerful and makes the boat interesting even in lighter winds
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Posts: 789 		Post Options Post Options   Quote tink Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Dec 19 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by Do Different

I do understand it's rude to shout on the internet but for effect please forgive me in this case, a TWO PERSON boat. A team of two of any degree of fitness will exceed the sum of the individuals.

One to pull it up and one in water to stabilise and then one in to help the other aboard.  Plus, one to remember the course while the other drives the boat. LOL Wink

A single trapeze boat is also good, one to lounge on the wire while the other perches comfortably; works for us. Smile 

 

Good shout
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As I'm responsible for our fleet of club Lasers and our older demographic don't like sailing them. I've just taken an old mainsail and shortened the leach by 37cm. This means the boom will be horizontal when  the mast is bent to the old block to block position with the traveller block on the gunwale. I'll see how it goes this year.

I have also moved the traveller 9" forward to remove the mainsheet around the stern thing. Works well.

There are other simple adaptions I can make to make the Laser easier for us older sailors for almost zero cost

I see no reason not to adapt boats to make them easier to sail within the club context. I'd rather have them used.
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Good topic. (I enjoyed rereading Dougal's piece from 2016.) This has been discussed in a previous thread but I feel that if you cannot recover your boat and get back in after a capsize you should change to one you can manage or not go out in conditions where the rescue boat is likely to be in demand.  

I would love to get a H2 but I suspect my Solo would be as fast in a drifter and less of a handful in a blow and I would lose class racing.  I really hope the H2 class continues to thrive and grow but with almost new 100 Solos being registered every year and high resale values, it looks a more reliable investment for my tapering stage of sailing.
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