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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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I do understand it's rude to shout on the internet but for effect please forgive me in this case, a TWO PERSON boat. A team of two of any degree of fitness will exceed the sum of the individuals.
One to pull it up and one in water to stabilise and then one in to help the other aboard. Plus, one to remember the course while the other drives the boat. ![]() ![]() A single trapeze boat is also good, one to lounge on the wire while the other perches comfortably; works for us.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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It's light enough and 14' is not too long IMHO but I agree about the size of the rig (hence my 'reduced rig' comment). It is wide too which is a mixed blessing, and doesn't have a reputation for being quick in the light* (though it should be pretty comfortable). For me the downside is that even the oldest used boats are only a few years old and holding their value pretty well. An H2lite with around 8m2 could be very attractive proposition but, given the lack of success of the (superb) Fire rig in the Blaze class I doubt they'll want to tread that path. And, I guess, the Fire rig is not popular 'cos the Blaze rig is just so manageable in a breeze so maybe the H2 rig is similar? When I'm older I'd guess a boat that excels in F2 would be more suitable than one that comes into it's own in F5+ as I will be more likely to stay in the bar when it really blows. * Which surprises me given the amount of Merlin Rocket in it's DNA, maybe I'm wrong about that though.
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Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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Remembered call, called a Quill Having built 3 Proas I think a tacking proa has a lot of mileage. Bolger-esk dirty sketch, I doubt they would let me race it though. ![]() |
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Tink
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Dougaldog ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356 |
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well Tink, I examined this issue in some detail a while back..... cast your eye over https://www.yachtsandyachting.com/news/188538/Silver-Dream-Racer Dinghy sailing is quite remarkable in the fact that it can be one of the most 'un-ageist' of participation sports. Before posting, I reread my article and with another 3 years now 'on the clock' I'd not change much.....in terms of single handers recoverability out afloat I would say was now the must crucial aspect - that and ease of moving about on shore. I can still hike, waggle a tiller and pull in the mainsheet, so performance sailing is still possible IF.... you can get someone fit and nimble to do the leaping around in the front of the boat. Still in reflective mode - it is sad that out of the three boats I name checked as being better for the older sailor, the Alto, Icon and H2, only the singlehander is a going concern. I was RO for their Nationals again this year (second year in a row.....a nice class that are a joy to manage) and even in the difficult going, they were still recoverable by 'older' sailors - as in older than me and I'm old! Bottom line - chose the right boat/boat+crew and there is not a lot to stop you sailing on into the 70s! D
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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I knew the H2 would come up and it is a gorgeous boat but personally a bit of big boat with a big sail area for my image of an 80%.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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That's the concept. Like a Proa you don't have to end for end to tack. |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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There is an AYRS boat with a sliding seat with an outrigger at the end of each seat when the seat is fully extended the leeward outrigger tucks into the hull. The ICs only issue is how uncomfortable it is in light wind. I suppose with development IC you could prioritise light wind comfort.
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Tink
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ian.r.mcdonald ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 440 |
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I restarted serious cycling 20 years ago so I think that I am fitter now at 65 than 45, but of course it's the joints that get us.
Now I have accepted righting lines on my Solo, it's still a pull in using the coffee table but ok. My Osprey is fine, sailing in all weathers we average one swim a year and I have an ex nat champ at the front to pull her up. Perfect! Edited by ian.r.mcdonald - 21 Dec 19 at 2:45pm |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Maybe an IC with outriggers?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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tink ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Jan 16 Location: North Hants Online Status: Offline Posts: 789 |
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Part of the catalyst was a recent safety duty where I assisted a couple of Solos, an OK and a Streaker all of who had righted successfully but simply could not get back onboard their boats. The easiest boat I have righted were my ICs, and they are sailed by mature people but sadly not suitable for where we sail.
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