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    Posted: 30 May 18 at 11:17am
Guess then we should all sit at home, eat very little, forget about going out and whatever you do don't breed or consume anything not grown in your very own eco window box.  'Sport' could  also be 'gamer' based and virtual naturally.

Oh brave new world etc  .....  (and you are welcome to it ...)
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Some of the rotomoulds I know would be 30 years old and either sailing 50 times a year in schools, or still winning national title trophies. Something that is used 1500 times is not "single use" as far as my maths can make out.

How many litres of petrochemicals are used to make high tech boats and sails that become obsolete, or used to drive them to Opens?
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Riv,in most of South Devon most of the non recycling rubbish ,and the non recyclable recycling is incinerated and generates a fair bit of electricity. So you can cut your boats up into bits and feed them into your black bin with a fairly clear conscience
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Eventually polypropylene boats do degrade and do have accidents. I've just had to bribe someone to take away a Topper that was attacked by antifreeze (still worked, just looked horrid). I have another one that was dropped on a sharp edge and has a damaged gunwale (big chunk out). The RYA have just done an inspection of our training boats and are keen on a good appearance, so the one with the chunk out is no longer being used. (Good otherwise). 

Any one want a free hull in South Devon?

I had a Wayler School board that someone dropped on a sharp edge (polyprop') and was economically un-repairable at the time. That had to be cut into small pieces and taken surreptitiously to the local tip.

Having listened to the BBC's Plastic Fantastic radio program series, it is clear that any sort of mixed plastic is very difficult to recycle so all the three layer boats maybe impossible to recycle economically.

In an ideal world I would prefer to buy aluminium hulls like the Grumman Canoes so beloved in the US and Canada. Totally recyclable and dead easy to repair. Last forever.  However I expect that the aesthetics of the material are against it here, though if combined with wooden trim and decks this maybe mitigated.
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What rotomoulded boats are abandoned ?
Their are none at my club, oldest boats are Toppers, but these aren't rotomoulded and are a different plastic ? Well, that's what I was led to believe.
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Originally posted by boatshed

If the rotamould is made of polypropylene, then a recycler will pay around is around 3p per kg at their gate.

So a 70kg hull is worth £2.10 and you'd have to deliver it.  Basically, a negative cost.

Or you can leave it in the nettles until the price of oil rises, then the numbers may work.  

hopefully owners will take this end of life value into account in the overall cost of the boat and not abandon them to the nettles, perhaps the manufacturers should offer a recycling incentive when purchasing.
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I've just read the RYA article on what we as boaters should be doing to reduce our plastic footprint.
Avoid single use plastic was the 1st point.
That's rotomoulds out then.
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Plastic pipes have a usable life of 100 years.
Polypropelene can be melted to a liquid repeatedly and injection moulded.
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I've got some rotomolded polyethylene Windsurfers that are now about 40 years old and still going well. If they are protected from UV do they have a shorter lifespan than 'glass or wood?
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons


Originally posted by boatshed

If the rotamould is made of polypropylene, then a recycler will pay around is around 3p per kg at their gate.
So a 70kg hull is worth £2.10 and you'd have to deliver it.  Basically, a negative cost.
Or you can leave it in the nettles until the price of oil rises, then the numbers may work.  

I was meaning profitable for them....... Within reason I would deliver a boat to them if they would recycle it and they could keep the £2.10....... Except I don't have any rotomould boats.......
So we need to revert to wooden boats built with copper nails and hide glues. Oh and cotton sails (though ally masts would be acceptable as aluminium is one of the most recyclable materials I can think of.... Now rgete's calling for the smartarse brigade, it's been a long day and I'm just about to pour the second pint....)  LOL


All metal should be stripped off the boat and sold separately. Aluminium masts are valuable whereas carbon stick worth booger all
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