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    Posted: 20 Jul 16 at 6:01pm
Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by GML

...some sailors in such boats don't seem to know that they are not allowed to pump, rock or ooch when Oscar has not been displayed

An ignorance shared, IME by some sailors in a number of classes which have no Oscar rule.

at what point does a 'roll tack' become illegal kinetics ????


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Originally posted by andymck

Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by GML

...some sailors in such boats don't seem to know that they are not allowed to pump, rock or ooch when Oscar has not been displayed

An ignorance shared, IME by some sailors in a number of classes which have no Oscar rule.

at what point does a 'roll tack' become illegal kinetics ????


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For the recent combined CVRDA and classic Finn event, the SI (written by a Finn sailor) specifically included that Finn continuous pumping was not permitted. It made it clear to everyone, Finn or other class and by saying it in the SI any pumping would be more likely to be spotted. There were no problems anyway.

Edited by patj - 25 Jul 16 at 8:11am
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Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by andymck

Originally posted by zippyRN


Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by GML

...some sailors in such boats don't seem to know that they are not allowed to pump, rock or ooch when Oscar has not been displayed

An ignorance shared, IME by some sailors in a number of classes which have no Oscar rule.

at what point does a 'roll tack' become illegal kinetics ????


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In the Laser fleet, never.

Same for some other fleets who I shall not name....
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Lasers appear to actually include it in their coaching sessions, though.
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Surely the RYA have a standard SI for Yardstick, which should cover class rules issues?

Can anyone point me to it?
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Originally posted by Brass

Surely the RYA have a standard SI for Yardstick, which should cover class rules issues?

Can anyone point me to it?

I believe most classes that allow free pumping say it is only allowed above a certain wind strength and if a flag is flown. As this flag is unlikely to ever be used in a handicap race the PY will be based on boats sailing without breaching rule 42 (in theory).....
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Originally posted by jeffers

Originally posted by Brass

Surely the RYA have a standard SI for Yardstick, which should cover class rules issues?

Can anyone point me to it?

I believe most classes that allow free pumping say it is only allowed above a certain wind strength and if a flag is flown. As this flag is unlikely to ever be used in a handicap race the PY will be based on boats sailing without breaching rule 42 (in theory).....
Yes.

I'm interested in class rules issues in general, for example corrector weights, templateing, SMOD parts etc.


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LTSC specifically require any breach of class rules which enhances performance to be notifed to the race committee. I think this is directed mostly at weight equalisation classes.
The most frequently broken class rule is probably the requiremnt to be a member of the class association?
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