Laser 2 spinnaker

   Thanks, really good points, especially about putting the patches on the inside and and the parrel bead.

Spinnaker has hardly been used. I'll check the halyard in the mast. I might be able to replace the cleat hoop with a small block I've taken off from below the mast. 

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Riv Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353	Post Options Post Reply Quote Riv Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Laser 2 spinnaker Posted: 19 May 16 at 5:31pm
	Thanks, really good points, especially about putting the patches on the inside and and the parrel bead. Spinnaker has hardly been used. I'll check the halyard in the mast. I might be able to replace the cleat hoop with a small block I've taken off from below the mast.

transient Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715	Post Options Post Reply Quote transient Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 16 at 10:05am
	There are several things that can increase the friction on the L2 spinny so without looking at how it's rigged and how you perform the hoist/drop it's difficult to say. As Spike says, the patches go on the inside, here's a list of possible issues. Rinse the salt (if you're on the sea) out of the halyard after each sail. What going on with the guy and sheet when you drop/hoist? Are you trying to drop and hoist on a slight reach? The halyard goes through two fairleads and then the cleat jaws on the cockpit floor before passing through the steel hoop which you pull against. You are pulling the rope over that hoop at 90 degrees which causes loads of friction so decent rope that isn't too stiff makes a big difference. Put a plastic parrel bead on the halyard between the first and second patch. This stops the knot at the top patch getting stuck in the loop at the bottom patch. Is the halyard free in the mast? IE not wrapped once around another halyard. This can happen so easily if it's been re-threaded at some time. If the spinny is old and absorbent (as Jim Says) it will be like dragging a dead body out of the shoot. Just a few thoughts. Edited by transient - 19 May 16 at 10:20am

RS400atC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011	Post Options Post Reply Quote RS400atC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 16 at 10:04am
	You could also try spraying the whole kite with silicone. A £4 can is cheap to try. Test the blocks etc by taking the kite out of the loop, tie a bit of string between halyard and downhaul. It could be friction inside the mast.

Spike Boland Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 19 May 16 Online Status: Offline Posts: 4	Post Options Post Reply Quote Spike Boland Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 16 at 9:20am
	You must have down haul inside - if you have two patches. Make sure the halyard can move easily through bottom patch. I have just bought a new spinnaker (£360ish) and it has holes not patches so top half can be on inside and bottom half outside which worked well last WE but that was first outing. You need to stand up to hoist and drop quickly so tiller must be long enough to steer with legs. This works till waves big enough to dump you in then the crew does the drop and the high winds ensure plenty of adrenaline.
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JimC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662	Post Options Post Reply Quote JimC Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 16 at 8:42am
	If its an old kite that has lost its crinkly finish and gets all soggy, sadly the best solution might be a new rag. The mast sheave does tend to be the most critical one and the one that takes the worst beating.

Riv Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 13 Location: South Devon Online Status: Offline Posts: 353	Post Options Post Reply Quote Riv Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 19 May 16 at 8:08am
	My spinnaker hoisting is slow due to friction. I've replaced all the cockpit blocks with ball bearing ones and might do the same with the mast sheeve. (already well lubricated) Halyard is 4mm. I've used silicon spray on the chute mouth So the question is what next. The spinnaker has two patches, currently I rig them on the outside of the sail so the colours on the edge tapes match the side they are on. Would it work better with the down haul rigged on the inside of the sail? Should I not bother with the lower patch? Any ideas?