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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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Good points above- scratch that 12, get an Albacore if there's a fleet of them!
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Null ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 May 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 745 |
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Albacores are great boats, we have a fleet at Tewkesbury. however in my opinion and having owned cheaper boats you will be outclassed by the modern Ovi's. Even the old wooden woofs seem to struggle now! Thats not to say don't buy one, it would be good to cut your teeth in something like an older composite porter, which would still put you on the line if you sail well. For me i wouldn't touch a fosrite for anything other than cruising. If you upped your budget by £500-£1000 you would get a very, very nice boat that would be more than capable.
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PeterG ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 823 |
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Far more important, in my view, than the type of boat is do other people sail them? If there's a fleet of Albacores at the club I'd say your decision is made. It's always going to be far more fun sailing in a class fleet than competing on handicap.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I think we can say categorically that isn't true for everyone, otherwise there wouldn't be so much more handicap racing than club racing. However if you don't have strong feelings about what sort of boat you want to sail there is a lot to be said for having a boat that is sailed in numbers at your club. You know it probably suits the water, you know there'll be backup available and a good number of other advantages. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Echo that! If that were true I'd be looking for a Miracle. Can you imagine it? |
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Punky ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 11 Feb 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 90 |
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Reasons not to get a kite boat:
1. On a small lake you will half the leg hoisting and dropping
2. Kites need replacing regularly and cost lots of money
3. For £1500 the boat will probably have naff system that makes hoisting, setting, gybing and dropping harder than it should be.
4. You stand far more chance of cocking up a gybe and swimming.
5. You stand far more chance of trawling the kite during recovery and either tearing it or going very slowly.
6. The crew (your g/f) will get calluses on their hands from rope burn.
The Albacore makes most sense especially if you have a fleet there, otherwise you can pick up a perfectly decent Tasar for that sort of money (but they aren't the best small lake boats either), or an Enterprise (doubt that would get you a foam one though) or N12, Graduate or Firefly or a Graduate (but 23 stone is on the heavy side for all these because they are small boats).
You could buy a boat with a kite and just not use it - that opens up Merlin Rockets and Scorpions but they would be wood and relatively high maintenance probably.
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MerlinMags ![]() Admin Group ![]() ![]() Joined: 19 Mar 04 Location: UK, Guildford Online Status: Offline Posts: 589 |
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When sailing with a partner, kite hoists/drops/gybes are complicated by having to say "please" every time, in a gentle tone of voice. Too much work to remember.
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Time Lord ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 13 Location: Warwickshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 301 |
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Go for the class that is sailed at your club ie the Albacore. It is much more satisfying to race boat on boat when you know how well you have done immediately on the water and can measure your progress. In handicap racing, you have little idea until the results are published.
The only reason that so much handicap racing goes on is that clubs are not brave enough to encourage fleets. As for Mags and his please before spinnaker action, my crew react to shorter words like yes, go or down! If you are slick the spinnaker can be up and drawing within a maximum of 2 boats lengths of the mark so that on short legs, it can still pay off. |
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batfinki ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 04 Sep 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3 |
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Hi all
Thank you so much for the time you've taken to offer me advice. The thought and effort you've put into your posts is really impressive! It's a great community on the forum here. It seems pretty clear that it's a GRP Albacore I need. I've looked on Apollo Duck, the Albacore class website, ebay, gumtree, ... and there's a few potential boats on there. I can't figure out exactly what's driving such a range of values, so I'll be running every potential purchase past everyone at the club to make sure I don't make a mistake. That said, we took the Vision out tonight and had a great time, so that will help me find the patience to wait for the right boat to come along. Thanks again Steven
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Time Lord ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 13 Location: Warwickshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 301 |
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I would go for FRP as opposed to GRP. Much stiffer and ages better.
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