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    Posted: 03 Jun 14 at 1:25pm
Originally posted by winging it

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Thank you for assuming that I don't have her enjoyment at heart and that my marriage isn't strong enough for me to teach her bits and pieces. All I can say is I feel sorry that yours is not.

My comment was not based on any assumptions about your marriage but rather very many years as a senior  sailing instructor where I have seen plenty of in-boat arguments test the ties of many a strong partnership. 

 This thread is full of assumptions about what women want as sailors, most of them flawed.  Oh, and while I'm here, thank you for assuming these posts are only read and replied to by men.   Clap
the same, but different...

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Originally posted by canoeslicer

Thank you for assuming that I don't have her enjoyment at heart and that my marriage isn't strong enough for me to teach her bits and pieces. All I can say is I feel sorry that yours is not.


I don't believe anyone was suggesting your marriage isn't strong. We are all speaking from our own bitter experience, and remembering other incidents witnessed all too often. It is a frequent outcome, just like the arguments (or mutual terror) you get with parents teaching kids to drive a car!

If you are teaching someone how to crew for you, outside of a competitive environment (rather than how to helm, or how to perform in a race) then I expect it will be much less of an issue.
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Originally posted by winging it


At the risk of stating the obvious and spoiling the testosterone feeding frenzy, why not invest in some lessons for your wife using a club or centre's training boat?  Once she has been taught to sail by someone else (very much your preferred option unless you know a good divorce lawyer) BOTH of you will be much better placed to choose a boat you both like.
The 2000 is a great boat with a fantastic race circuit, but can seem a tad sedate after a while.  It would also be a great trainer boat for an RS400 and there's a healthy second hand market.  2000 this year, 400 next year?



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That was offer but was declined she only has an interest in being able to blast round the bay occasionally and every now and again the little one come to.
Thank you for assuming that I don't have her enjoyment at heart and that my marriage isn't strong enough for me to teach her bits and pieces. All I can say is I feel sorry that yours is not.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote winging it Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 May 14 at 7:31pm
At the risk of stating the obvious and spoiling the testosterone feeding frenzy, why not invest in some lessons for your wife using a club or centre's training boat?  Once she has been taught to sail by someone else (very much your preferred option unless you know a good divorce lawyer) BOTH of you will be much better placed to choose a boat you both like.

The 2000 is a great boat with a fantastic race circuit, but can seem a tad sedate after a while.  It would also be a great trainer boat for an RS400 and there's a healthy second hand market.  2000 this year, 400 next year?




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That sounds like what I was expecting the larger mass is harder to start moving in this case healing and then more effort is required to arrest that movement.

I learnt quite early on about steering for balance I moved into a laser radial out of an opi due to my hight but I was not heavy enough and had to really work the steering to stay upright.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 May 14 at 10:27am
Depends what you have in mind by stable. As I recall, the 400 feels slower to react in heeling (because of its mass?) but it is a lot more powerful, so it's more a case of steering for balance whereas a 420 you can bully with body movement.
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I race an F18 and have a 420 to race / fun sail with family or friends. I find the 420 to be very stable and forgiving but a bit sluggish in light wind, it's great fun when it picks up a bit. With the trapeze and kite it offers plenty to keep crew occupied and lots of learning.
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Thought it maybe more like the 420 as they both have a more rounded hull than say a 3000.
Would people class the rs400 as more or less stable than the 420?
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