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    Posted: 30 May 14 at 9:36am
Agree with that to.
Not teaching the little one the instructors in the club are, as he is just like me at that age will listen to them but argue with me.
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Originally posted by MerlinMags

Beware teaching your own spouse/children to sail. Especially not in a race. It can all backfire and they end up hating it if you so much as raise your voice above a whisper. There must not be a single moment of urgency!

Agree with that 100%
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Beware teaching your own spouse/children to sail. Especially not in a race. It can all backfire and they end up hating it if you so much as raise your voice above a whisper. There must not be a single moment of urgency!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Medway Maniac Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 May 14 at 11:59pm
Interesting comparison, the 420 & 3000. The 420 feels initially less stable than the 3k, but it will hang on longer before capsizing. Thus I capsized my 420 once in three years, and when I got a Laser 2 (=3k) I thought it was much more stable, yet I capsized appreciably more often!

I’d say the 400 is more akin to the 420 than the 3k, in that it will hang on when it heels, but because of its size it is a less fidgety than the 420.
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Originally posted by gordon1277

Agree RS400 good boat for your requirement but, you really must become very confident in it before you let her anywhere near it. They are nothing like as stable as a dart, I know stating the obvious but having major wobbles and falling over will not make her happy.

That's a very good point. What's there stability like compared with say a 420 or laser 3000 as I've said both those a lot until I got the Dart Hawk.
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With similar requirements I ended up with an Albacore. So far so good, however I have 3 little-uns so waiting until they can swim before I take them out.
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I'd go for the RS400.  At 24.5 stone you will be very big for a 2000.  The 400 is powerful but actually reasonably well mannered.  As others have said, get a trial sail first.
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With exception of The Little One, our requirements were very similar to yours and ended us up with a B14. Fun boat :-)
But clearly that isn't a boat you would want to pack a small child onto, but I that will be true for the RS 400 as well. I would also expect it to be true for any boat rightfully carrying the attribute "high performance".



I really like the look of the B14 always have, I'd love one but will have to wait as no good for the little one.
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Originally posted by canoeslicer

I hadn't thought of a laser 2000 will have a look at one of those. What's the performance of a laser 2000 like compared to a rs 400 or similar as I've seen those out.
She is also the kind of girl that would rather struggle for a month or three and have the potential of high performance, than be comfortable after 4 or 5 outings in something much easier and slower.
The little one is 6 years old, can swim and has just started in an opi floating between 2 people 40 feet apart.

Then maybe it should be the 400 after all.  But wear a wetsuit!  The 2k is, as kneewrecker says, appreciably slower/less powerful.

Ideally, I guess, you'd try both.  I'm not sure the speed difference is that apparent until you start comparing with boats alongside you.  Most clubs will have them sailing in different fleets, sailing different courses, so that's something else to consider.
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With exception of The Little One, our requirements were very similar to yours and ended us up with a B14. Fun boat :-)

But clearly that isn't a boat you would want to pack a small child onto, but I that will be true for the RS 400 as well. I would also expect it to be true for any boat rightfully carrying the attribute "high performance".


Edited by ChrisB14 - 29 May 14 at 4:22pm
B14 GBR 748 Bullet B
In build: Farr 3.7 GBR 410 (both sail number and the current number of loose parts)
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