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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The class rules permit only certain specified spars, unmodified, so the answer is almost certainly no. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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They are good people and there is absolutely no way that I'd want to be rude or even slightly belligerent I'm a relative newcomer sailing a boat that probably with hind site isn't as suitable for that water as it might of at first appeared, hence my scrutiny of the Streaker. If this was a different thread it is a perfect example of how badly the PY system is broken, it's one thing having a distant Governing body out of touch, but when the blame then transfers to close sailing acquaintances even friends or colleagues the likelihood of just fading away rather than cause a nuisance is far greater - thats human psychology. Or as I have always suspected people are forced into sailing a class they won't enjoy against their will, the class won't move with the times, and so the slow creep of erosion continues. Having said that I haven't fully explored the Streaker, but with all the advances the lipstickers have manage to slowly make below the rig, the very least that should happen should be a carbon mast, the sail is only 6.5 it's tiny by modern standards and an EPS style rigging system if unstayed wasn't acceptable would enable running by the lee laser style sailing techniques. It doesn't look much like a planing hull so it probably wouldn't be as effective but there could be some more tactical opportunities on the downwind leg, who knows until it's tried. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Try winning a handicap race on a tideway in a Miracle. Light airs, top or bottom of the tide (i.e. next to no current), maybe, otherwise forget it. A beat against the flow and you are stuffed compared to faster boats, let alone trying to keep up with a Streaker off-wind. But yes, on a lake it may well be a good bet.
And that, GRF, is a key to how a large chunk of your formidable gripes about the PY system could be addressed - if the official figures came in three sets: lake, tidal & sea. Even just the first two would be a huge improvement. Downs SC tackle the tidal issue with what looks like a simple skew of the numbers about a mean of 1000, which is supported by theory. Of course, you can argue forever about how much the numbers should be skewed, and the requirement will change from tide to tide, so if the numbers are set at club level griping is guaranteed, but an official set of tidal numbers from the RYA would go a long way to making things fairer, and make it much easier for people to shrug and accept the imperfections of the system than it is now. We have looked at introducing tidal PY's at WSC several times over the years, but have always pulled back from adopting them, partly because if the sailing committee sets them people will feel the results are more arbitrary than if we'd stuck to the 'proper numbers', and more importantly because it would mean that the damned Wayfarers would win by even more than they do now!
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Er-Indoors ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 20 Nov 13 Location: Cambs Online Status: Offline Posts: 146 |
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And if it is not there, there is always some cleat to sit on. |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Apart from the whacking great "Team Rooster" on the aft deck, it looks pretty good.
Would the boom be better if it was a different colour? Or do you want a wishbone to hang off? |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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It would be better if it were a carbon 'I' beam, but they haven't spotted it yet.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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I wouldn't buy another new boat without a carbon boom - it handles so much nicer than alloy through the gybes.
One of Mike's early and best changes for the Blaze was a carbon boom - more important than a carbon mast imho.
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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And why, pray, do you believe that an I-beam would be better than a closed tube?
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Imagine it smacking you in the forehead!
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