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    Posted: 01 Apr 14 at 5:36pm
Originally posted by transient

I agree also. Over the years of coming here and on other forums there have always been those questions: "I need a boat for single handing and also taking the kids (and or wife) out". I don't think it works for many reasons........The conclusion I've come to is that 2 boats are needed, hired or owned.


Exactly why I now own a Phantom and an Albacore (and a few other boats, but best not go there...)
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There are various cats that can be sailed single or double handed.

Think some Darts can be done either way, and as a heavy weight will be fairly competative single handed
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I agree also. Over the years of coming here and on other forums there have always been those questions: "I need a boat for single handing and also taking the kids (and or wife) out". I don't think it works for many reasons........The conclusion I've come to is that 2 boats are needed, hired or owned.

Edited by transient - 31 Mar 14 at 1:14pm
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I agree with Jim totally- assuming of course bloke doesn't want to hitch it up for camping holidays in Cornwall/France too.... then the Vareo.

I recommended a Vago for a very good friend (e.g. a chap whom the Laser trademark wouldn't influence my advice) But he was primarily sailing it with other people, but wanted to sail singlehanded too.  The cut down sails and trapeze gave him some fun cruising options- to the point that I've been tempted myself  Embarrassed

If the balance had been the other way around with more single handing than double, then I would probably have gone for the Vareo- it's actually quite a nice boat to sail once you're north of 90kg, assuming you aren't expecting stunning upwind performance.


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For whatever my opinion is worth the best solution is to have a singlehander to be a singlehander, and rent a club training boat when you want to take people out for a ride. As singlehanders get more and more prevalent I think having a small fleet of decent rentable two handers is an important feature for a club.
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The Vareo was marketed as this, as there is a spinnaker for the crew to play with down wind. Having taught someone how to sail the boat from on board, using the kite (acting as an extra pair of hands, really, so he could get a feel of the boat without the constant swimming) it can be fun.

Wasn't the Vago also designed for this, but more from the Doublehanded but can be single point of view?

In general, though, I would say you lose out either way round.
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In my new commordoral role I seem to be the person everyone now sends each and every query regarding our club which is now becoming tedious, however in this one I found myself forced to act in the same way all you lot have to when asked what's the best boat for a given situation and pointed to something on the beach.

Big guy quite tall probably north of 90 kgs wanted a boat to predominantly sail single handed but also wants to take someone else out, probably an offspring, and for the life of me there isn't anything I could think of specifically designed with that in mind.

So I said Phantom. Given it would take the weight and they are entry level, but the crew will soon get bored with nothing to do, strikes me something should be designed to this end with a single handed role but with the addition of a jib could give little johnny/janet something to tinker with, without compromising the single handed performance of the boat rather than de powering a dual hander, or have I missed something that is already out there?

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