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    Posted: 25 Nov 13 at 7:50pm
Thanks guys that's good to know
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I have kept my wooden boat in a carport for a long time. It was protected by fence panels on one side and the end was sheltered. As Jim says if you can keep the boat dry and aired you can stored outside upside down. Raise the boat off the ground and put a sheet over her with room an old mast or similar cut down to hold the sheet off the boat. As long as she is dry the frost cant do to much damage. Airflow is important.
Beware though a small puddle of water can do a huge amount of damage over a winter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote JimC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 13 at 2:43pm
Originally posted by Jamie600

would a car port be any good to protect a wood boat over winter?

To my mind a wood boat's biggest enemies are frost and ice. A car port keeps the frost off and keeps water out and thus ice from forming, so yes, I'd say it will be a substantial help.

The other thing that's well worth doing is to check the boat regularly to make sure water, leaves and other detritus isn't getting in under cover and the boat is as dry as possible.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jamie600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Nov 13 at 2:33pm

Clutching at straws here, but would a car port be any good to protect a wood boat over winter? Obviously it isn't going to provide much in the way of warmth but would keep the elements out and possibly the worst of the frost?

Excuse my ignorance but I've only ever really had glass/frp boats

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jamie600 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Oct 13 at 9:26pm
Useful to know, although it would be a bit of a faff doing that every time we sail, plus it means moving a load of junk out of the garage first!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ColPrice2002 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 13 at 11:48am
Just a last thought...

"We do have an outbuilding that is garage-sized but has a normal door rather than a garage door, so would need converting ."

It's quite possible to fit an Enterprise through a standard door - sideways.

Use a couple of old blankets (or a couple of dollies - one inside, one outside) and a couiple of people each end.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Caveman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 13 at 8:19pm
Unless I could store my boat under cover, I too would go for an FRP Enterprise. 

I used to have a Speed FRP Ent. Performance wise, I don't reckon there is a great deal to choose between  FRP and a wood boats of the same age /value from  reputable builders. 

All but the most recent FRP hulls are constructed in polyester FRP. They last quite well but are perhaps not quite as durable as, epoxy FRP hulls. Ent rigs are put under a lot of rig tension and  I have noticed stress cracking in the gelcoats of  some quite young examples. 
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Post Options Post Options   Quote transient Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 13 at 5:17pm
The club had 3 old GRP ents, some of the first made, in the region of 12000. They lasted years, being used by the sailing school. Loads of people gained their 1 & 2 sailing the things, they were finally retired to the graveyard in 2007. 1 has since been restored and is used by a family for pottering around and occasional racing, getting a couple of 2nd and 3rd positions in club races last year......It has no transom flaps or bailer apart from a bucket and it won't take 400lbs tension.

I would agree that they are not that well made by modern standards but they are/were not completely useless.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ChrisJ Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 13 at 4:58pm
Agreed: but that doesn't stop people trying to sell them! But I pity the poor beginner who buys one and takes it out in anything over about 10 knots...

The best thing for them (then! and now and I had one for a good few years) is to find a roundabout and to put flowers in them.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sawman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Sep 13 at 1:22pm
Originally posted by ChrisJ

GRP Ent's, before 20000 numbers, are well worth avoiding.
 

This^^^

they were rubbish when new compared to wooden boats - by now I am surprised there are any seaworthy ones left!
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