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Jamie600 
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 Topic: EnterprisePosted: 08 Sep 13 at 8:22pm |
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Thanks guys, good advice.
Looks like FRP it is
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The Moo
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Posted: 08 Sep 13 at 7:43am |
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We have a couple who sail a 17k series composite hull with an old black top needlespar and new Edge Sails. They are light weight and fly in most conditions other than honking. Very difficult to touch them in a handicap race. Unfortunately the only other Ent at the Club which is FRP is not sailed that well, so difficult to gauge the boat's relative performance but it does look quick when all the anecdotal evidence suggests it shouldn't be
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jeffers
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Posted: 06 Sep 13 at 11:23am |
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We have a very old wooden ent at Hunts, 3764 which does well against much newer boats.
The fast guys do have wood though which if epoxied is almost at tough as plastic but would definitely benefit from being taken home during the winter and stored dry. The 'newer' FRP boats are reputedly as good as an equivalent wooden boat I am told by the Enterprise gurus at Hunts (the Ent class admiral is a member).
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ChrisJ
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Joined: 07 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 337 |
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Posted: 06 Sep 13 at 8:54am |
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GRP Ent's, before 20000 numbers, are well worth avoiding.
After that, any FRP / epoxy Ent will be as good and as fast as an equivalent condition wooden boat. Some wooden boats of your age will be (will have had to be) well looked after. Some might be tidied up to sell (which is much easier to do with a new coat of paint on a wooden boat than on ingrained dirt on an FRP boat). Personally (ex Ent sailor, having had 4 different ones), even with a garage available, I would go with a good FRP rather than wooden. Don't spend all your money on the boat - a new cover, new jib / main sheets and a new set of sails makes all the difference to the look and feel of the boat. |
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Jamie600
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Posted: 05 Sep 13 at 2:14pm |
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We have two MkIII's at our club, very nice looking and very quick in the right hands (we have one at the front of the fleet and one towards the back) Thanks for the advice guys, looks like the sensible way to go is FRP. We do have an outbuilding that is garage-sized but has a normal door rather than a garage door, so would need converting . All I really need is confirmation that an frp boat isn't slow, compared with an equivalent wood one. The gear guides don't help as they are too recent, for the price we are looking at it would be approx 10 years old. I'll see if I can find any Ent sailors without a vested interest, but if anyone has any further thoughts please post, thanks |
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The Moo
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Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 11:57pm |
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Does anyone on here have a feel for what the Enterprise sailors in general think about the latest Rondar Mk 3 double bottomed boats? Can't see a lot of feedback about them on the Class Association website.
I note however, from the Y&Y Gear Guide the boats took top 3 places at the Nationals which perhaps suggest that it might just be the way to go? As a getting a bit long in the tooth Micro Pond National 12 sailor I reckon it could be a good prospect for my dotage.  Edited by The Moo - 05 Sep 13 at 12:09am |
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transient
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Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 1:13pm |
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Just joining in...you know, run around a bit and look like a crowd. and I have no idea when they stopped making them like that. E7270 would be about 1960/1 |
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RS400atC
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Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 12:48pm |
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I had a Solo like that, but surely plain GRP (non sandwich) hulls are very old now and not in the £2k bracket? I must admit nearly all the Ents I sailed had less than 5 digits in the number. Does E7270 still exist I wonder?
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transient
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Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 12:33pm |
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The older fibre glass Ents, like one I used to sail, flex on the underside, boths sides of where the front bulkhead meets the hull.....nasty cracks
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RS400atC
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Posted: 04 Sep 13 at 12:01pm |
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Personally, I'd only spend over £2k on a wood dinghy if I had a credible plan to keep it indoors in winter out of the frost.
That way, the varnish stays on, but it may not work if you want to sail more than 8 months of the year. Buy a VGC boat, look after it, touch up the minor damage and there should not be too much work for a few years. At that point you can take a view.
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