Topper Spice

One thing that is definetly obvious about the differences between the
spice,iso,boss etc is their weight - also due to this their handling -
downwind the spice was night to helm if a bit heavy on helm due to the
amount of the boat still in the water even when planing! However my 14
is like a laser downwind  - really light
and easy to steer and gives you more confidence to push a bit faster
even though youve got the masthead 30sqm + kite up!

We always beat the 800s - upwind the hydrofoil rudder helps alot -
downwind pure speed!! - does any one know the pn number of the 800? And
are any of the cherubs tried t foil rudders yet?

Edited by ssailor

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ssailor Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 11 Oct 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 430	Post Options Post Reply Quote ssailor Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Topper Spice Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:20pm
	One thing that is definetly obvious about the differences between the spice,iso,boss etc is their weight - also due to this their handling - downwind the spice was night to helm if a bit heavy on helm due to the amount of the boat still in the water even when planing! However my 14 is like a laser downwind - really light and easy to steer and gives you more confidence to push a bit faster even though youve got the masthead 30sqm + kite up! We always beat the 800s - upwind the hydrofoil rudder helps alot - downwind pure speed!! - does any one know the pn number of the 800? And are any of the cherubs tried t foil rudders yet? Edited by ssailor
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:19pm
	just get a 800 and sail that without spending any more money and you stay where you are in the fleet or you will get better unless you something wrong with a cherab you have to spend to stay at the front

timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:18pm
	The latest rules that got voted in are the new 2005 rules and before that, the last major rule change was 1997 (feel free to step in and correct me if anyone knows any different). The latest rules have been voted in by the class and will not be considered for an update for at least 5 years. So you saying that is like saying that you're not going to buy a new mast or sails for the next 5 years and stay at the top of the fleet?
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LocoP Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Newbie Joined: 20 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote LocoP Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:18pm
	Theres more to just owning a cherub than just turning up and sailing at events. Sure other classes have bigger fleets, but cherubs are all about having fun and I think that something thats been forgotten in other classes. We even hold occasional open meetings without racing just because its good to swap boats, sail with other people and exchange ideas. Like others Im biased but its a great class thats really going places at the momment. We have at least three pro builders at present that could knock out a hull fairly cheaply. I dont believe cheque book sailing exists in development classes any more than in a SMOD class. You wouldnt expect to win any OD class with an old boat and old sails and the latest "race pack" from RS.
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carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:14pm
	yer but you have to keep spending money on the most uptodate sails masts ect.
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timnoyce Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991	Post Options Post Reply Quote timnoyce Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:12pm
	Well that is the link to the second hand section on the Cherub Class Association website. http://www.sailingsource.com/cherub/chshand.htm I bought my boat for £700 and that will soon be twin wire and 2004 rules (eg not the very new larger sail area rules) with a bit of carbon work and a little modification. So in total I will have spent around £1k. The multi nationals winner "norwegian blue" was recently sold for £900 and that was also full 2004 rules so there are some bargains to be had.
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:10pm
	thats about what i pad for 29er but it is an old one 1999

carshalton fc Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337	Post Options Post Reply Quote carshalton fc Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:09pm
	second hand cherubs are about 2000!
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5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:09pm
	a new boat is not that bad thow you will pay 3500 for a scond hand 29er

5420 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 16 Mar 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 622	Post Options Post Reply Quote 5420 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 17 Mar 05 at 8:07pm
	1400 for a set of sails the 29er are cheaper than that