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Poll Question: Should there be one on the market
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    Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 1:50pm
Yes so almost 17 years.... My point exactly.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 2:03pm
Strange how it is the oh-so-oldfashioned British designs that are still popular, though, isn't it? Maybe Holt, Fox and Proctor knew what they were doing with their hull shapes, which are surviving as classes far better than anything from 1995.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote haroosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 3:39pm
good point Rupert.....
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The problem with classes from 1995 was the focus on asymmetric, yet clubs did not move with the times and put on the sort of racing that suits asymmetric dinghies. Even now, 15 years later, most clubs don't run a windward/leeward course- even once a month to mix things up a bit. I love sailing asymmetric boats, but there's no local club racing worth bothering with so I'll keep my boat fund dry until I can get the time to travel around again.

There's a bit of chicken and egg there for sure.... and to be fair, some of the big marketed boats from 1995 weren't the best example of what asymmetric sailing has to offer- Topper Spice anyone???



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Originally posted by ham4sand

it does look like  a so-slow


yeah ... it kinda looks like a Solo with a pimped rig ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote haroosh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 5:37pm
Originally posted by rogue

The problem with classes from 1995 was the focus on asymmetric, yet clubs did not move with the times and put on the sort of racing that suits asymmetric dinghies. Even now, 15 years later, most clubs don't run a windward/leeward course- even once a month to mix things up a bit. I love sailing asymmetric boats, but there's no local club racing worth bothering with so I'll keep my boat fund dry until I can get the time to travel around again.

There's a bit of chicken and egg there for sure.... and to be fair, some of the big marketed boats from 1995 weren't the best example of what asymmetric sailing has to offer- Topper Spice anyone???

Or maybe a topper breeze....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rb_stretch Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Nov 11 at 7:52pm
I have to say that a Topper Spice was a lot of fun in a big breeze as it was relatively forgiving. The problem with it was that the rig was too powerful for the waterline length, which slowed it down upwind and the spinnaker was too full to give you many options downwind. Basically it couldn't really sail to it's handicap.
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I sail a musto skiff and I am 67kg and in big breeze it is easily manageable, the controls are really efficient for upwind sailing, and the kite can easily be de-powered due to its low-cut clew if you're not feeling so confident. ok the heavier sailors have an advantage in a straight line, but really, its all about boat handling when its f6+. same with the lower wind spectrum, sub 8 knots and the lightweights can pinch harder, wire earlier, soak lower, but the heavy weights have no reason not to be able to do well because they can focus more on wind tactics and sailing the boat as smooth as possible! so really, either end of the wind scale there's got to be someone with an advantage!
The smaller mainsail would most likely have a big advantage in windy weather for both light and heavy weight probably! as soon as you're easing main, you're also causing drag so with the tighter leech on the mini sail it would have it's advantages but i think that would give the issue of diversifying the class into two seperate fleets which would probably cause people to leave the class. It would be interesting to see how the 100 class come across this issue.
However, relating back to topic post I am aware of a few friends who have opted to build/buy a Farr 3.7 which is perfectly ideal lake racing with its optional toe straps and small mainsail, however, i'm not so sure about its potential in 20 knots and big Solent chop.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jack Sparrow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Feb 12 at 6:21pm
It would be great to be put in touch with your 3.7 building / buying friends... Maybe you could PM me there emails or forum names? So I could help out with any information they need. Tx
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