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    Posted: 12 Feb 12 at 9:20am
Originally posted by blueboy

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Doesn't scale though. I am not a Laser sailor but I was at HISC when several huge lorries turned up packed with charter hulls for the Worlds. Upwards of a hundred of them. They were all unpacked and prep'd - as far as I know by the HISC marine team. It's a big logistical exercise. As far as I'm aware a lot of the sailors doing Laser international events pay the charter fee and turn up for some convenience international racing somewhere in the world. Organising it all yourself is another proposition. 
Neither HISC nor their Marine Team had anything to do with chartering of the Lasers at the Laser Worlds - or their upkeep. This logistical dilemma was down to Laser UK (Performance Sailcraft) who worked very closely with the Laser Class Association to charter the boats out to competitiors.  The charter boats were new when they arrived at Largs for the Radial Championships before they were shipped to HISC for the Laser Worlds and Laser Master Worlds. I believe all the charter boats were pre-sold before the events had started.
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OK. I thought I saw members of the Marine team involved with unpacking. I am probably mistaken.
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Originally posted by sprayblond

What will this mean for the 2012 championships...?

"At this point I don't think this is news or anything even resembling a big secret... LaserPerformance have decided they no longer want to participate in the boat charter business for major events like this. As I understand, the lone exception is here in North America for the High School and College Sailing singlehanded championships, but other than those they will not provide charter boats for any other events (US Sailing Singlehanded Champs, European Champs, World events, etc.).

Going forward LaserPerformance says it will focus entirely on boat building. All previous "support" functions once performed by LP will be transferred to their sister company McClaren which will handle sports marketing. Organizations once receiving "support" from LP can now apply for sponsorship to McClaren."

Well, the men's and women's europeans don't even have an NOR yet.  The women's worlds are in the same state (germany). The men's worlds (aus) are already up and running.

That should tell you something.  I think the wheels might be about to fall off...
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How are they going to manage this for the championships in Argentina? 

Voyage time is around three weeks. Add one week for port clearing, handling and unloading and another week for loading and loading on board. That leaves one week i.e. boats would need to be lined up ready to go in the factory (US or UK) for departure  early next week which means ILCA should now know whether they have charter boats or not..?
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Plus How do you think the Argentians might be treating any boats that might be the british boats/ sails/spars - passport control might also be interesting.
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You forget there is a licensed builder/dealer in Argentina now who I believe is loosely associated with PSA as opposed to LP so this may be a moot point at this point in time.
 
Also it is not LP are refusing to charter they are withdrawing from this side of the business and another company is taking over. Time will tell if this arrangement will work.
 
AFAIK all the charter boats supplied for major events have to be brand new and most are pre-sold anyway.
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Just to be careful, the firm is Maclaren, and is unrelated to the car manufacturer/racing team/technology company McLaren.
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sounds like maclaren have a perfect debt vehicle.... 

there's no irony lost in pushing your toddler around in a maclaren pushchair, pushing them afloat in a maclaren laser and finally getting their own kids to push them around in a maclaren wheelchair when their knees give out at 50!

nice healthy lifestyle brand alignment... no thanks, I'll stick with a bugaboo and RS boats.
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Originally posted by jeffers

You forget there is a licensed builder/dealer in Argentina now who I believe is loosely associated with PSA as opposed to LP so this may be a moot point at this point in time.
 
Also it is not LP are refusing to charter they are withdrawing from this side of the business and another company is taking over. Time will tell if this arrangement will work.
 
AFAIK all the charter boats supplied for major events have to be brand new and most are pre-sold anyway.
 
I have since found out that the license in South America (as a region for Laser building) is actually held by LP and not PSA. There is a threat rumbling on about this over on the Laser Forum if anyone has insomnia...
 
Apparently unless they get their act together it could have serious implications of the worlds event that is being held in Argentina....
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