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MerlinMags 
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 Topic: Pond Sailing SuggestionsPosted: 13 Aug 10 at 4:06pm |
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The RYA officially approve of the handicap adjustments published for the Merlin, when older boats are racing. I don't know if your club would be happy to go with this too. If you sailed off 1006 I think you'd always feel hard done by, even if it didn't really make that much difference!
http://www.merlinrocket.co.uk/technical/handicaps.htm |
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Hector
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Posted: 13 Aug 10 at 5:45pm |
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How / where do the RYA 'officially approve of the handicap adjustments published for the Merlin' ? I ask because I've never seen such a statement beyond the advice that clubs adjust to suit conditions etc. I can understand the argument that older Merlins should get some relief from the latest PY inflicted on them by the advances made by newer boats. But if a club does go down that line, it should probably also apply the same logic to narrow wooden Fireballs, soggy pre foam GRP Larks / Scorpions, old heavy Lasers, and most relevant in this discussion old GP14s? |
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Keith
29er 661 (with my daughters / nephew) 49er 688 (with Phil P) RS200 968 Vortex (occasionally) Laser 2049XX |
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Hector
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Posted: 13 Aug 10 at 5:46pm |
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As well as dozens of other classes.
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Keith
29er 661 (with my daughters / nephew) 49er 688 (with Phil P) RS200 968 Vortex (occasionally) Laser 2049XX |
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JimC
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Posted: 13 Aug 10 at 6:42pm |
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I think he's slightly over stating that. The Merlin is one of the asterisked classes in the list, which is:
However I don't know that the actual numbers suggested by the class are approved by the RYA. |
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tickler
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Posted: 13 Aug 10 at 7:02pm |
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When I have visited Southport for the 24 hour, (see you next month) I have often thought how well a Taser would sail there. If others are not familiar with the lake it is a good size, next to the sea, so flat water and often very good blows! Depth is a problem but Tasers sail quite ok on part board. The only problem that I can see is smacking the slightly fragile mast on the bottom. I can just visualise howling past Southport Sailing Club with the wind off Matalan..............
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charlie1019
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Posted: 13 Aug 10 at 7:27pm |
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Why don't you buy an Ent and join the club 50yards away and have
class racing?? |
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elessar
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Joined: 22 Jul 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 34 |
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Posted: 14 Aug 10 at 12:09am |
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Well National 12s are good boats however very unstable and
wouldn't carry 24 stone very well. I would suggest a Kestrel if you can find one cheap enough or perhaps a Wanderer. |
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Its alright to dream
LASER - 102739 RS 300 - 483 BLAZE - 737 NATIONAL 12 - 3436 29ER - 716 |
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Tom J
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Posted: 15 Aug 10 at 1:20am |
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I know i'm biased but a word in favour of the scorpion... First off, the top 3 at the nationals ranged from 21 to 26 stone,so no worries on the weight front. On the price front, if you wanted to win the nationals then i would say a new boat is the way forward but we had boats 20 years old winning races at this years nationals and £1,500 will get you a boat capable of winning opens. Oh yeah, regulations on centreboard and rudder are open (within reason) so no qualms about shorter blades for southport if necessary.. The boat is light, responsive, fits all your requirements and is fun to sail... If you wnat any more info / have any more questions feel free to send me a message... Tom |
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Roy Race
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Hector got this one right on page 1! Also, you'll be too heavy for an Ent. Their ideal weight is about 21 stone. The ideal weight for a GP is 22-23 stone, but you'll get away with a couple more. Go and get a £1500 GP. A well-maintained series 1 will be 99% as good as a series 2 around southport marine lake, and by regularly sailing against a crew who are slightly better than you, it will give you a target to aim at and accelerate your learning curve. That's if you are interested in improving. Not everyone is, which is fair enough. If you're not interested in improving, then just get anything, get on the water and have fun. |
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craiggo
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Posted: 15 Aug 10 at 10:36pm |
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As an ex-Southport member, I'd say your only sensible option is the GP. The best boats for the lake have always been the Graduates and the GPs. Most newer designs have longer boards and its just not worth sailing around with your board 1/3up. I believe that RS400s and B14s have been sailed on the lake but not sure how they went. It might be worth talking to the Hiveys over at West Lancs. They used to be members of Soutport many moons ago in the Grad fleet but Daves been doing well in RS200s and RS400s lately and may have sailed them on the marine lake at some point.
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