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Chew my RS ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Oct 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 790 |
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Hmmm, I think you made a mistake somewhere. The draught of th box section with 160kg crew weight is 39mm (in fresh water), increasing to 51mm for the heavier crew. These equate to WSA of 8.468m^2 and 8.612m^2 respectively, which is an increase 0.144m^2, or 1.7%. I did a triangle rather than a circle (cos it was easier!) and the draught is 78mm increasing to 102.5mm. WSA is 8.332m^2 increasing to 8.452m^2 - an increase of 0.12m^2, or 1.4%. So the trianglular section is 'better' (from a WSA weight sensitivity perspective) than the box section, which is as you would expect (as the waterplane area increases with draught). However increasing waterplane area (and waterline beam) introduces its own problems... And, of course, you have to consider the juxtoposition of Jupiter with Venus. |
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Iain C ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1113 |
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Agree, massively class dependant. Fireball, Adam Whitehouse and Mike Pratt...both of these guys are big (Mike's huge, well over 6 foot) and they FLY in the light stuff when they have no reason to. That said, with Mike "the lever" on the wire when it's windy and they fly too! Tom V and I are too heavy for a Cherub in the light stuff and we get crucfied. To the extent we don't even bother going out. However big breeze we will be fully powering the 2005 rig when other lightweights are spilling their 97s, and getting Suicide Blonde going faster than much newer craft. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Your diagrams demonstrate that a boat which has vertical topsides above the static waterine will gain WSA much more slowly than one which is flared. This is of course correct. Where you are going wrong is in not thinking about the actual immersed shape of whole of your boats. Whilst in light air a typical wedge shaped skiff may have the whole of the mid section immersed up to the chine, the aft sections will be much less immersed with bow down trim, thus greatly flared above the waterplane, and its the aft areas where the WSA will come from. |
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hurricane ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1047 |
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people get into weight matters in to much detail at the end of the day one bad tack can lose as much as being 3 kg to heavy for the boat in the lightstuff. I know this is my personal opinion but at the end of the day unless your nationals/ european winning tallent its not that important. Boat time is way more important than weight in most cases.
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Barty ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Mar 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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FreshScum ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 27 Apr 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99 |
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With any class, weight wise, it always pays to be the median weight of the class. At the top of the bell curve. At this weight, as long as you are the best sailor tactically, in a series over a range of conditions, you will win.
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