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Fans1024 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 177 |
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I'm looking to get a twin wire assy boat. Done a fair amount of single wire assy sailing as a crew and a wee bit of 800 sailing. My helm has done a fair amount of helming from the wire. Our all up weight is probably in the region of 140kg+ with the bulk of the weight and height at the back. Budget £4000, but would like to spend less. At the mo we're looking at the 800, but are there any other boats we should consider?
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FireballNeil ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Oct 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 654 |
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Well there's always the 49er, you could pick up a perfectly serviceable example for £4000. More challenging than the
800, although a few have said the 800 is more exhilarating. |
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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There are other boats you could consider but I think your already looking in the right direction. BOSS - cheap, old, heavy, topper build quality but nice to sail in all conditions, difficult to find one still in one peice. L5k - cheap, old, heavy, fairly difficult to find them these days. Int 14 - for 4k you could probably get something that is just about competitive still, but they are tricky boats to sail. As was pointed out in the latest Y&Y its non-stop from the moment you leave the beach until you get back in. RS800 - in budget, good fleet, probably easiest twin stringer to sail, quick, and good support from RS. |
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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And you didn't mention the 'C' word. Very impressed. @ 140kg you'd be top
end but OK. |
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Fin. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 07 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 128 |
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hi there's 3-4 5000s being advertised on the association website... boats are going for 1500-2000quid. I think there's another 2 on apollocuck as well. Great boat to sail.... and if you want to race, the assoc are very keen and helpful. Worth thinking about. Drop them a line on their forum if you're interested. (hopefully there's a boat near you which you can 'test drive' before you buy). http://www.laser5000.lasersailing.com/
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BOSS - How similar is this to the Spice? In terms of layout etc. 49er - How difficult are they to sail? Cherub [dare I type the word] - How much would a half decent 97 rules be? Also, just how much swimming would be involved? In terms of sheet loads, and bare in mind I'm girl but find the 800 sheet loads totally managable. Also, what order would you put the boats in regard to ease to sail? Massive thanks |
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Fin. ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 12 Feb 07 Location: Ireland Online Status: Offline Posts: 128 |
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Hi - class rules haven't changed - still a bag system of the 5000. Though operation is a little different, it is works well nevertheless.
Hi - the 5000 has considerably higher loads than the 800 - it is very much a powerful heavier boat. Saying that were some girls racing them recently so if you're up for it.... do a testdrive if you can. The main advantage they are considerably cheaper than alternatives. I found them a super boat to sail- very exciting... also good solid and stable platform to sail from and surprisingly forgiving.- I used to take novice sailors out on mine - something I would n't do poss. on some alternatives. All the best with the boat hunting. regards to the BOSS - I almost bought one when I went for the 5000. There was a very good comparison/review of the 2 boats in DinghySailingMagazine (Jan 2005 or 2006). |
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I left the 49er out of my list because its one hell of a step from a conventional boat, and given you havnt been twin stringing on anything else you might find yourself not doing an awful lot of sailing in the short term if you got one. They are beautiful boats to sail but as a beginner you'll probably struggle with boat handling initially and they arnt the most forgiving boat.
The BOSS is very similar in layout to the 5000 and similar sail plan, although a bigger kite and second set of spreaders were added later. The big advantage is they have a chute. Sheet loads are pretty high on the kite though! I didnt mention the SPICE as there just arnt enough of them out there to really justify it and the support from Wet & Windy will be patchy. Cherubs, are a possiblity although a bit wobbly for a first stab at this type of boat. That said, Phil Kirks 97 rules boat (Slippery When Wet) which is a DOG design,will be for sale shortly and seems relatively sensible to sail, and is well built and reliable, and I would guess would leave you with lots of cash in your pocket. If you want a one design though I think the 800 is the best bet. If you want something a bit different then a 97 cherub thats well put together would certainly enable you to develop your skills and contrary to popular belief the Cherub guys are a good bunch, DOGS and SLUGS seem to be the nicest 97 rules boats. The P7 is quick but a bit wobbly so probably best avoided. |
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