YouthSailing, the RYA and Catamarans

Hurry, as I said "I have no idea what it could be".

I'm not familiar with all the UK clubs (I know of HISC of course) but in NSW, many cats are raced at specialist cat clubs and we consistently medal. Forbes and Booth, for example, come from a club that bans monos. So does recent A Class world champ Steve Brewin; the 2006 Dragoon world champs; and former Hobie 16 world champs. Bundock's home club is (was) pretty much a cat club, although it does allow monos in. Looking at other classes - we have an extremely successful Laser club that just races Lasers, Skiff clubs that just race Skiffs, world windsurfing champs who come from board-only clubs.

So it's proven that you can get medals if you come from a club that only allows one type of boat, therefore perhaps the problem is not "discrimination' but something else????? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER; I'm just proposing a question.

If cats had not been banned from some clubs here I'd probably still have a father (he died sailing a cat from a cat club that he'd helped form after the skiff club he'd been champ of banned cats, but the cat club still didn't have a rescue boat)
but personally I've never seen a big problem with any club or event saying that they are just for a certain type of craft (dinghy, yacht, skiff, board, kite, cat, offshore multi, whatever).






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I like the idea of team racing, not sure how that could work though with the restriction on numbers...

Originally posted by Chris 249 in NSW, many cats are raced at specialist cat clubs and we consistently medal. Forbes and Booth, for example, come from a club that bans monos. So does recent A Class world champ Steve Brewin; the 2006 Dragoon world champs; and former Hobie 16 world champs. Bundock's home club is (was) pretty much a cat club, although it does allow monos in.

Hi Chris,

Just to set the record straight........

Kurnell Cat Club does not ban monos or boards.  Last season we allowed an NS14 to join us after he approached.  With mono fleets on the same body of water, they tend to sail at those clubs.  Likewise with those clubs and catamarans.

Pittwater Catamaran Club is now called the Palm Beach Sailing Club and includes monos and multis in its constitution.

Tuggerah Lakes has as mentions is also a mixed fleet club as with many other clubs around NSW.

I don’t know of any club in NSW that is restricted to cats, however KCC and PBSC then to only see cats race there as they are in close proximity to other clubs which cater to monos.

Now I do believe a certain club in Sydney was created by Tornado Sailors (not restricted to multies) and was the home base for Ts in Sydney for a long time.  Slowly the Ts were pushed out as the club believed they were taking up too much room and the club could fit twice as many monos in the storage compound.  Today they welcolme the cats and have invited us to become members there, however would be restricted to only a couple of spots in the boat yard.  If more than a couple of sailors wish to store their cats, then monos will take preference over the cats.

Originally posted by jglavery Originally posted by Margje I was following this forum closely, I really can't understand why the sailing federations are against cats. At the ISAF website I found out the canadian federation is also against the Tornado being Olympic.... Here is their submission! Canadian submission Where does it say that they are against cats in the submission? Not including them in the classes does not make them anti-cat - as stated in the submission, it indicates the classes which they think should be in the Olympics. As I pointed out in my previous post (under old username of jlavery - lost my password) - only 4 out of 27 relevant submissions mention multihulls at all. I think the cat community should be very careful of being labelled with the "If you're not for us, then you're against us" attitude.

To me, it sounds like a few of these National Authorities are playing word games.....  Being very PC about how they feel about Cats and Yachts.  I can play word games too.  Certain NAs are not saying they want cats dropped from the Olympics, however they do not support cats or yachts in the Olympics, however would like to support dinghies in 8 out of the 10 disciplines.   Maybe the cat sailors should not be against these NAs but instead, not support them i.e. don’t pay their dues.  After all they are not supporting cat sailors.

It also seems very ironic that ISAF want to support a Skiff style boat when Skiff classes have never been affiliated with ISAF and pride themself on the fact.

jeese

 

all this noise has waken me urp.

 

whats all the hostility about jim , don't like other classes having a good gripe bowt injustice against them ?

reckons them guys in them there flying carts has good cause to be making a shout , yet you seem to be on a singlelimbed mission to flame any charnce yow get .

give them dudes a charnce

 

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