YouthSailing, the RYA and Catamarans

Jim- none which is the point. As the RYA have not given any reason for their decision, conspiracy theories flourish!  Can you point me to anything in their statement which explains their views?

As for consultation, it should have come before not after its submission. It was not a consultation but an attempt to reverse a fait accompli.

As for the tiny minority stuff, it is just beneath contempt.

 

 

Originally posted by Shadowman Can you point me to anything in their statement which explains their views?

I only checked out one article so I suppose I could have looked harder...
Quotes from the rya statements made on the Yachts and Yachting website

"whereas we see rapid growth in the 29er, Laser 4.7 and Feva classes, often without RYA support, very few parents and clubs have taken the option of buying into the RYA catamaran programme. "

"The current Olympic Development Squad has 4 boats (8 sailors) with only one coming from an RYA youth catamaran background, one from the wider Cat classes and the other 5 coming through the RYA’s Youth and Olympic monohull classes. "


The tornado being in the olympics I dont have much of an opinion on, im neither against it or for it.  However, whilst I agree that the success had at the isaf youth worlds by our young GBR sailors has been exceptional, I don't agree that the Hobie 16 should be there in the first place.  It does not feed naturally into the tornado and is by standards is a completely different boat and so I dont see how having it helps us get medals on the olympic platform.  With the exception of leighs crew, the last two teams sent to the olympics in the tornado have been mono sailors, and the tune up boat which if im right was rob wilson?  Also came from mono's. 
So.........why do we need the hobie 16?  If there was a cat that sailed like a tornado and created a natural progression then yeah sure, but I cant help thinking the 16 should be dropped like a sack of bricks!

I hope I haven't angered to many people.

Doug

Originally posted by Doug.H Originally posted by Shadowman Can you point me to anything in their statement which explains their views? I only checked out one article so I suppose I could have looked harder... Quotes from the rya statements made on the Yachts and Yachting website "whereas we see rapid growth in the 29er, Laser 4.7 and Feva classes, often without RYA support, very few parents and clubs have taken the option of buying into the RYA catamaran programme. " "The current Olympic Development Squad has 4 boats (8 sailors) with only one coming from an RYA youth catamaran background, one from the wider Cat classes and the other 5 coming through the RYA’s Youth and Olympic monohull classes. " The tornado being in the olympics I dont have much of an opinion on, im neither against it or for it.  However, whilst I agree that the success had at the isaf youth worlds by our young GBR sailors has been exceptional, I don't agree that the Hobie 16 should be there in the first place.  It does not feed naturally into the tornado and is by standards is a completely different boat and so I dont see how having it helps us get medals on the olympic platform.  With the exception of leighs crew, the last two teams sent to the olympics in the tornado have been mono sailors, and the tune up boat which if im right was rob wilson?  Also came from mono's.  So.........why do we need the hobie 16?  If there was a cat that sailed like a tornado and created a natural progression then yeah sure, but I cant help thinking the 16 should be dropped like a sack of bricks! I hope I haven't angered to many people. Doug

Doug,

If I stop watering my plants, will they top growing ?

The RYA cut thq 16 when they were winning at the highest level.  The cat squad was doing very well.  The only reason the RYA could not kill it earlier was because they kept winning !

Hopefully one of the squad can expand on this.

Originally posted by Scooby_simon   The cat squad was doing very well.

It seems to me that the RYA put far more money into the cat Squad than they ever did into the 29ers until the 29ers were already successful in numbers without that level of assistance. The RYA obviously considers that the growth in top level sailors/fleet, in spite of that money, wasn't worth it. If their claim that the parents and sailors weren't joining in is correct then I'd say they were right.

I'm sure that the RYA has never got into supplying skiff type boats as they did with the multis. For instance the first or second year of the 29er transitional squad something like a third of the sailors in it had had their first sail in a asymettric/trapeze boat in my Cherub, and I like to think got into 29ers because of that: its interesting that my club has produced plenty of good 29er crews but very few 420 ones. You can be sure that the Cherub was *nothing* to do with the RYA!

Originally posted by SoggyDoggie Have you noticed how high the sail numbers are?

Yep, I used to wonder about that until I discovered that Hobie sail numbers are literally that - per sail, not per boat: new sail, new number. But the success of that class for off the beach sailing is undeniable. It seems that, just like the RYA squad, the kids are happy to sail Cats but don't want to buy them. The question for you is why do those kids not want multihulls when they get home?

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follow this link:http://skandiasailforgoldregatta.co.uk/video.asp

Select the Tornado Medal race; Now does this look like good TV ?

At approx 8:10 Ben A says "Great to watch"; approx 8:25 Richard Simmons "cannot get spectator sport much better than this".

Why are the RYA NOT supporting this ?