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    Posted: 27 Sep 07 at 8:55am
perhaps this fuss will force ISAF into having a proper youth development policy for cats......maybe this was the rya's intention in putting the submission forward?
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or maybe we should start looking out for pigs in the sky....

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Originally posted by Jon Emmett

Just out of interest but I would say for the none sailing public Tornados is one of the most exciting boats to watch race (after 49ers) and Ynglings one of the least. Based on the difference in speed when things are going well/badly...

I think alot of the problem is that the non-sailing public do not understand sailing, and therefore switch off. Therefore the tactical nature of sailing is lost.

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have just heard back from the Ellen Macarthur sailing trust website... they have forwarded my email on to her!

We need the big names... does anyone know how to get hold of Reg White?
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i know Reg is already involved with the campaign so its just getting him to sit down and add his name
lifes to short to sail slow boats!

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Can't help thinking some of the "newbie " remarks seem to be in line with a certain songsheet

and perhaps as I've allready done a bit of disclosure of identities wouldn't go amiss (when I copied my e mail to Rod Carr to the topic)

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I would be astounded if there were NO posts in here from high up RYA personel , their moves may have seemed naive in their submissions , but they all live in the same age as ourselves and appreciate the power of the nett.

With all our money the rya could enlist a spin doctor .(perhaps after the horse has bolted though  )

I would like to state that as one of the first names on the petition I FULLY SUPPORT the CLARIFIED statement.

 

 



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Grant Piggot has spoken to Reg who is clearly with us... Watch out for his name on the list!!!

It could just be that this subject goes further and ends up with ISAF and the British Olympic committee asking the RYA why it is that they do not represent Catamaran sailors yet pretend to in their submissions. And also why they don't operate within the terms of their constitution!

The backfire on the RYA may well have begun.
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Nearly 750 signatures.

A big thank you to all those that have so far signed, but keep badgering those that haven't........Parents, wifes, girlfriends anyone involved in sailing etc

It looks like the cat sailors have been woken from their sleep and are finally uniting behind a good cause. Lets keep united once we have defeated this issue.

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Originally posted by Stuart O

Gael

The RYA will state no doubt that cat sailors have done nothing to help themselves through lack of training etc. Members of this forum will counter that with examples of training given by class associations and clubs. Training should not just be for the elite. The RYA has kept quiet about various budgets it has available for class associations do do training, Money it has no doubt, (IMO), used in other ways.

I completely agree with Stuart O's post.

In my class, the Sprints, we hold two teach-ins a year: north and south. The teach-ins are "inclusive", as the government would say. They are NOT exclusive, ie for children only, as the RYA would like.

Moreover, we also have training at club level, where we are adept at getting allcomers started. The RYA is completely indifferent to this.

The RYA must be informed that we are not the old USSR. We live in a democracy where representation, transparancy, and accountability are paramount.

 

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Most  well run UK class associations run training for their members whether in multihulls or monos....sounds like the cats are no different in this respect which is great. The issue is that the monos and windsurfers have specific, popular junior and youth orientated boats like the Optimist, Cadet,  Mirror, Laser Radial , Bic Techno etc...whereas neither the UK cat "family," sailing schools or the RYA has been successful in promoting cat sailing in specific, youth orientated cats to young people.

Maybe it doesn't matter,and youngsters should sail whatever cats they wish, but a laissez faire system makes for poor age group orientated coaching and competitions.

I wonder how many "cat clubs"  run learn to sail or learn to race programmes specifically for youngsters?

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