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    Posted: 20 Sep 07 at 8:45pm
Yes, do believe it.

As much as I hate to say it, A laser would be a GREAT start for you.

Get one, sail every minute of the day ( well, as much as you can ) ... do some events, get yourself noticed by the RYA ( eg: by winning everything ) and they will come to you.

Theres always room for improvment when you get a Laser, they will give you the basic racing experience, all the way through to fleets of over 300 boats on the start line ( Nationals / Worlds / etc ) with top level Team GBR sailors competing against weekend club sailors.

Try it for a few weeks ( Borrow your sisters boat for a few days in a half term or something, once you get used to how tippy ( stable compared to many boats! ) it is, you'll see another side too it.
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Lets face it. If any young person wants to get to Olympic level you have to forget fun and choice. Dedication, cash and indulgent parents are far more important. How many squad jackets are now at the bottom of the drawer discarded by once aspiring, now dissolusioned young sailors. Mind you I am a well known miserable old sod.
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Ok then. So i buy a laser with all the money i have with no imput of my parents. Then What do i do after that. Its taken me 3 years to save up!!!!!!!!! Thats why i want the right boat.
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Get adopted.

 
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The benefit of boats is if you look after them they are often worth about what you paid for them (its the looking after them that costs). 

Of course a 14 you could try to storm the topper squad!

But the lontg and short of it is you will need to sail and race at the right events regularly and show some talent to get the RYA to pay attention.  Or find enough money to compete overseas without RYA support and beat the RYA squad boats.  Simple eh

I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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, okay once youve bought my laser, you get a car and get yourself to every event you can. now its just a matter of winning them. this means lots of time on the water. you will also need top level coaching and that only comes at top level prices, so you need funding, from the RYA, and you get that by winning lots of things, which you do by getting coaching, which you pay for by......
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Originally posted by tickler

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Originally posted by tickler

Dedication, cash and indulgent parents are far more important.


Agreed.

If you cant get a new set of sails ( or even 2 .. ) per season, you will find it harder each year to keep up, no matter how well your skills blossom.
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Originally posted by tickler

Lets face it. If any young person wants to get to Olympic level you have to forget fun and choice. Dedication, cash and indulgent parents are far more important.

Rubbish! Ben Rhodes 49er Rep Ex Laser sailor, Dad owns a Kitchen fitting Business. Jo Glanfield 470 Rep, Stevie Morrison 49er, Adam May Tornado (Sydney) All of these guys had a choice, Stevie quit his job to go full time sailing!

None of these guys have either well off or indulgent parents and yes if you know them they do have fun along the way.

It's this sort of negative mind set that defeats most kids through the squads, yes you can do it with dedication and a positive attitude. 
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Please do not think that I am trying to discourage anybody from aiming high. But you do have to be realistic about it. I, and I am sure others, have seen young people fall by the wayside with thier dreams shattered. Also any young student who wishes to do well HAS to have indulgent parents at some time or they cannot travel to prove how good they are. Friends of mine have one daughter on the Topper Squad and another on the 29er Squad. Mum and Dad see each other somtimes. They have another daughter who is a good club racer. I myself have travelled with my son, not to the extent of some others, but enough. He has had great success in "minor" classes and we both enjoyed every moment of it. He is on work placement from Uni. earning and has his own car. All I had to do was fit the towbar so that he can travel with his B14.

To sum up. See how good you are in any class, See how enthusiastic you are, See how much support you can get. There are lots of races you can win without even thinking about the Olympics. Above all enjoy yourself.

I am just a humble joiner but I have to admit that many squad parents do seem to fit into the middle class/professional segment which sailing ousiders would expect. Now that is a shame.
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