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    Posted: 20 Sep 07 at 6:44pm

Yes, if you wana do 2012 you already need a brand new boat and a very good racing past!! I started on a campain in the 49er for 2012, jacked it in to campain the 12! haha, different people wana do different things i guess.

and 24/7 for fun, ok, when there is actually NO wind, and you have an 8m stick in the wobbling about isnt much fun! haha
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If the Olympics are your goal, you need racing skills. You'll get these by regular class racing. At 14, your only options are to get involved with RYA chosen youth classes. These are listed hear: http://www.rya.org.uk/Youth/youthsailracingprogrammes/nation aljuniorsquad/nationaljuniorsquad.htm
 
I was in a RYA Topper squad for a while and it's hard work, but I learned more in that short space of time than I did collectively before that. I'm not saying you HAVE get into a squad, but your best chances of getting to the Olympics is through the RYA youth squad program. At the very minimum, you want to be attending as many open events and all the major national events possible in whatever class you chose to sail in. Getting good results will come with experience. Prepare to be thrashed to begin with, It's demoralising but it will only get better if you practice. Remember, some of those kids have been race training with the RYA since they were 11! The more time you can get on the water, racing, the better. Good luck!
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Any really I just want a training boat wether thats a single or double handed boat it doesnt really matter.

RS600, Contender, Laser 5000, ect all are quite cheap secondhand.



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Originally posted by andy_cherub

For shear fun 24/7 and the best sailing of your life, you really cant beat a twin wire 12ft boat weighing under 50kg!!

24/7 with a 12ft skiff that's a touch on the ambitious side

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Originally posted by Sailing Tinker

In the end my main aim is for 2012. bit of a personal everest, but hey why not. And the 49er is the only one i fancy. The 470 looks a bit boring. But for now i need a boat that i can practise in for a:


small lake


under £1500 e.g(rs600, contender)secondhand


and works!!!!!


 




im confused, do you want a boat that is a single hander do you can sail with your dad or other people
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In the end my main aim is for 2012. bit of a personal everest, but hey why not. And the 49er is the only one i fancy. The 470 looks a bit boring. But for now i need a boat that i can practise in for a:

small lake

under £1500 e.g(rs600, contender)secondhand

and works!!!!!

 
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I would say a new rules cherub, or if your feeling energetic, a 12ft skiff. 800 would be the obvious bet for your position, and in terms of uni - dont go to a uni which sails on a pond!! I recomend Plymouth, just fantastic sailing!!!

Plus if you want a 49er to train, olympic stuff get your check book out! with these new rules for masts, sails etc - there are mutterings of the older non CNC made boats not being alowed to race with the new hard chinned CNC boats!! may not be true, im no longer in the class, but one to consider. Is the 49er going down the 470 kinda line, yes.

For shear fun 24/7 and the best sailing of your life, you really cant beat a twin wire 12ft boat weighing under 50kg!!

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If you can sail an RS600 the 49er is a piece of cake until it gets really breezy assuming your crew is as good as you !

As mentioned though you really do need to think about where you sail, as leeward shores or confined launching/retrieving areas can cost you a few pennies in damage. Taking the main down on the water and neatly rolling it is fiddly and pretty difficult.

If you prefer crewing then crew any assymetric with at least the crew trapezing, even crewing an ISO would help with the skills you'll need.
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I doubt it. I suppose a twin wire Cherub would teach you the skills needed . A boat test was done against the 29erxx and an 05' rules Cherub (Atum bom).  Neither of the boats were thought better, but the the general consensuses was that the Cherub was quicker and the XX was easier to sail, first off.

Cheap twin wire boats:
Cherub,
Spice,
Boss,
laser 5000.

They're the ones that jump to mind first. Where do you sail? How big is the sailing area?

Why so keen on the 49er?  How far do you want to take your sailing? Campaign  around Europe? Club racing? Open meetings?


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Well i planned to sail one quite a bit later when i go to uni and hopefully there will be a big lake. But at the mo i want a training boat.
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