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Originally posted by Guest#260

This thread has lost it's way a bit.

The MPS2 concept is to switch the boat from a single handed boat to a two person boat. Like the below, rather than to just sail a 2 person boat without the crew which of course has been done ...

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Unless I missed something earlier, you don't seem to have addressed the issue of the centre of lateral pressure moving forward thanks to the addition of a  jib. How will you handle the lee-helm? The boat has bundles of mast rake already...
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

Originally posted by Guest#260

This thread has lost it's way a bit.

The MPS2 concept is to switch the boat from a single handed boat to a two person boat. Like the below, rather than to just sail a 2 person boat without the crew which of course has been done ...

Rick

Unless I missed something earlier, you don't seem to have addressed the issue of the centre of lateral pressure moving forward thanks to the addition of a  jib. How will you handle the lee-helm? The boat has bundles of mast rake already...

The extra roach and extended boom length due to the boom being horizontal not angled on the mainsail would balance the jib ...



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Unless I've missed something, how would you tack the jib with the the tack of the jib forward of the forestay? I'd have thought simply moving the forestay to the nose would be the one place you might encounter real problems with the boat not taking the loads you wish to put on it.
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Zip luff jib and run it up the forstay .. saves having to add / remove / move loads arouns on the fordeck.
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Originally posted by alstorer

Unless I've missed something, how would you tack the jib with the the tack of the jib forward of the forestay? I'd have thought simply moving the forestay to the nose would be the one place you might encounter real problems with the boat not taking the loads you wish to put on it.

The bow fitting is the same as the one on a 29er so just move the forestay to the bow from the existing position on the chute mouth ... next question

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I haven't read all this thread Rick so it might have been talked about allready... but in my experience a barn door of a fully batten main sail doesn't make for the most happy tacking. If you have to roach up the main to balance the board position it is going to be an unpleasant sailing experience.
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Originally posted by Guest#260

The extra roach and extended boom length due to the boom being horizontal not angled on the mainsail would balance the jib ...

Sounds optimistic to me; the main is hardly un-roached as it is. I'd be very interested to see someone try it.
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Originally posted by Medway Maniac

I'd be very interested to see someone try it.

So would I

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You could get some idea of the imbalance generated by sailing an 800/29er/49er without the jib... The reverse situation.
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