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    Posted: 13 Sep 07 at 12:07pm
I want one. They often go for under £500 on ebay, so 15 knots for £500 is pretty god damn good! Back on subject(ish). What handicap do they sail off? 
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Its pretty much irrelevant until you can tack and gybe without falling out/over/in! I used to sail my lowrider to about 400 speed at the club.
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Originally posted by aardvark_issues

Its pretty much irrelevant until you can tack and gybe without falling out/over/in! I used to sail my lowrider to about 400 speed at the club.

Thats quite good for me as my parents have just bought a 400 so i should be tustleing with them!  Now I really want one! Why do some have t-foil rudders only and others don't, whats the advantage?

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AFAIK, T-foils stop your transom form sticking in. Some how they trick the bow wave into thinking the boat is twice it's length and makes you go faster. Or something like that. Whatever it does, it makes you go faster.

In conclusion: T-foils = GOOD!

There was a very informative article in a recent issue of Y&Y which I am yet to read. What issue was it?
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Tfoils in moths are there for different reasons to the 14/cherub foils. Moth Ts are primarly to damp out the pitching motion and make the boat much easier to sail... virtualy all the skinny boats should have them, and if they dont they should do.

I snapped the T off the bottom of my rudder launching once and carried on trying to sail without it (the main rudder was unaffected... just with some messy splinters on the bottom) and it completely transformed the boat.
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Originally posted by Isis

Tfoils in moths are there for different reasons to the 14/cherub foils. Moth Ts are primarly to damp out the pitching motion and make the boat much easier to sail... virtualy all the skinny boats should have them, and if they dont they should do.

I snapped the T off the bottom of my rudder launching once and carried on trying to sail without it (the main rudder was unaffected... just with some messy splinters on the bottom) and it completely transformed the boat.


I'm assuming your talking about the moth.
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I think so ross
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Originally posted by Ross

Originally posted by Isis

Tfoils in moths are there for different reasons to the 14/cherub foils. Moth Ts are primarly to damp out the pitching motion and make the boat much easier to sail... virtualy all the skinny boats should have them, and if they dont they should do.

I snapped the T off the bottom of my rudder launching once and carried on trying to sail without it (the main rudder was unaffected... just with some messy splinters on the bottom) and it completely transformed the boat.


I'm assuming your talking about the moth.


Yep it was the moth T I broke.... The cherub T could survive a nuclear winter


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Yea it was preety hefty unlike the dagger board
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so moths are easy to break then? what about  spares, how hard are they to collect? new sails? etc.

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