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    Posted: 29 Aug 07 at 4:55pm
But the decision is made at the instant the class flag comes down.  It is an interesting one, especially as some penalties specifically carry over after a general recall eg a black flag
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Originally posted by Worthy

I don't know the answer, but surely once the start has been aborted (which is on the start gun)

I don't think that's quite correct. The general recall is signalled when 1st substitute goes up, which is likely to be a few seconds later. In the meantime, you are racing.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stefan Lloyd Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Aug 07 at 4:42pm

Interesting question.

Racing A boat is racing from her preparatory signal until she finishes and clears the finishing line and marks or retires, or until the race committee signals a general recall, postponement or abandonment.

So suppose you take a yellow flag penalty between the preparatory signal and the moment the general recall is sounded.

44.3a says: A boat takes a Scoring Penalty by displaying a yellow flag at the first reasonable opportunity after the incident, keeping it displayed until finishing, and calling the race committee’s attention to it at the finishing line.

But a general recall is not a finish.

Finish A boat finishes when any part of her hull, or crew or equipment in normal position, crosses the finishing line in the direction of the course from the last mark, either for the first time or after taking a penalty under rule 31.2 or 44.2 or, under rule 28.1, after correcting an error made at the finishing line

So in my view, you are stuck with the yellow flag penalty even though there was a subsequent general recall.

 

 

 

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I don't know the answer, but surely once the start has been aborted (which is on the start gun) you aren't racing so can't get a yellow flag.
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If someone receives a yellow flag for an infringement of rule 42 immediately after the start of a race , but there is then a general recall due to the number of boats over the line does the yellow flag stand and why ??
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