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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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in a laser its when it gets realy windy its actually quicker to piss it in at the gybe mark and do a dry capsiize than it is to sail off and tack round.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Ian99 ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 07 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 138 |
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"Chicken Gybes" (i.e. not gybing!) are actually only "safer" (in the sense of avoiding a capsize not hitting your head
![]() I do remember once on a really gusty day with a really bad wind against tide chop when I ended up sailing about half a mile beyond the gybe mark waiting for that choice moment though ....... even though it made the second reach nearly a fetch we still overtook plenty of boats who nosedived and capsized by chucking the boat straight round at the mark!! |
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HannahJ ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Jul 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 861 |
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Going back a bit, I've aways called chcken gybes "wearing round" and iIve found it's actually quicker to be brave and gybe because you end up pointing quite high and not being where you want to be.
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MIRROR 64799 "Dolphin"
The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist hopes it will change; the realist adjusts the sail |
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Funny so have I - but that was before I had any idea at all, seemed easier than getting it down then putting it back up again.. ![]() Doddsy should be getting his replacement mast back soon, about ready to be taking another thrashing from a girlies boat, wont be long before we head over to Whitstable to see how the inbreds are doing.. Edited by G.R.F |
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Possible on a leadmine with all that momentum but not so easy in a lightweight dinghy. I have managed to tack the kite on the MPS in about 3 knots of breeze on a odd course ... but any more than that and you'd not make it. |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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I've tacked a 38 footer with the spinnaker up. It was an emergency avoidance maneouvre but I don't really recommend it as it took quite some time to disentangle the mess. |
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O.K. so the S thing is pretty much what we do anyhow, just don't harden up
til you're ready - Chicken Gybing isn't actually gybing then its sailing past the mark, tacking then bearing off again.. Er it has been known to happen especially during a "dolphin attack" but a bit tricky with a spinnaker up.. |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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in the S gybe you bear away do the gybe then point the back down wind quickly after the gybe to take the power off.gives a nice S shape. it takes the sting out of the gybe and gives you more time to find all the right bits of string.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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I'd hope EVERYONE is having fun regardless of their position in the fleet and as Stefan points out people seem to get better over time, I am sure everyone wants to improve regardless of their position in the fleet and as such everyone is "trying" |
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Stefan Lloyd ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 03 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1599 |
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Don't think that's actually true. I've seen a number of "no hopers" turn into regular winners over the years, so presumably they were in fact trying all along. Plus everyone is actually in with a chance. With a good start and a couple of lucky windshifts, most of the fleet can manage a win once in a while. It happens. |
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