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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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12' skiffs are from Aus & New Zealand as are R-class skiffs. If you want to upgrade from a 29er to a twin wire boat you should seriously consider a UK Cherub. The rules have just been changed to increase white sails to 15.5m2 and kites to 21m2. RMW are building off the shelf boats and will be on display at the Dinghy Show I believe. |
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pro wannabe ![]() Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: 18 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 84 |
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thanks blooby i'll have a look! but arent cherubes a development? so ill have to keep up grading?
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Your spinni aint as big as your mouth!
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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Put it this way, No. (12 ft skiffs and R-class are development classes too by the way). UK CHerubs the leading designs over the last 7 years have been the Paterson 7, the Slug and the Butt Plug. These boats were all designed in 1997 / 8 or so. Prior to that the leading design was the Italian Bistro - again for about 7 years or so. So if you get into the class with a second hand boat to learn to sail them, and then do a single upgrade to one of the newest designs then you will probably not have to upgrade for 5 to 8 years or so. And if you are telling me you want to be competitive (top 5 at the nationals type stuff) in an OD class and would not upgrade anything on the boat over the same period I don't think I or anyone else would believe you... So don't let the development bit put you off joining a great class. |
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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I've
recently become a member of the Cherub crew as i picked up my new boat
yesterday! It's 'Taking Liberties' 2643 and of bistro design. I know
it's not the newest boat out there but it's going to be undergoing a
bit of a facelift over the next few months with snout, extended
gunwhales, 97 rules kite and jib, and 2nd wire.Would like to bring it
up to the very latest rule changes but being a student i don't really
think that i can afford that!
Can't wait to get it out on the water on wednsday to see how she goes! ![]() |
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carshalton fc ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 05 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 2337 |
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yer go for it!!! tell use how it goe when you do get the boat on the water!!!!
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I luv Wight ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Jan 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 628 |
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The current Cherub national champion was using a mainsail for it's sixth nationals, and jib and kite doing their third - so the sails last a long time (If you've got a fast boat!) And runner up - mainsail and kite 5 nationals, jib 2 or 3. Experience helps too - the champ first started cherubing in 1974! |
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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Now you're showing your age Andy!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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As indeed did the crew/owner of the boat that won the handicap competition for older boats. And the previous year's inlands was won outright(admittedly in very unusual conditions) by the same 14 year old boat featuring the same antiquated forward hand:-) |
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Granite ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 May 04 Location: Scotland Online Status: Offline Posts: 476 |
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The fast Cherubs tend to stay fast for a few years below is a table showing the top boats of the past 25 years in terms of nationals wins Sail No Name Design Wins Runner Up Appearances Both the Bistro and the Patterson 7 designs have managed to fill the top three places at a single nationals, the Bistro in 1991 and the P7 in 2004 The average number of nationals that a boat does is 3.88, Five boats have clocked up more than 10 nationals, 26 boats have managed five or more and 17 boats did not like the heat of competition and have only done the one!
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If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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timnoyce ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 05 Aug 04 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 1991 |
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Reporting
back after taking the cherub out for her maiden voyage (well with me at
the helm anyway!). Was blowing 20knots with squalls of much more,
combine that with snow showers you've got yourself perfect conditions!
Took a while to get used to what was going on as things happen much
quicker in a cherub than a laser 2!! Got her upwind and then bore away
onto a reach. Think it needs some seat belts installed as boy does she
fly! Not been that scared/excited since the first time i trapezed years
ago!
Need to do some modifications and repair work before she sets sail again but it was all worth it! ![]() |
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