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    Posted: 15 Oct 08 at 10:12am

I bought the magic-marine  light weight  Skiff harness.

I think it works well.  Straps are tucked  nicely away and  fits. I don't find it  'rusts away to paper thin' .

I do check that the quick-release hook is properly loaded before going out. I found it can be  dislodged and  may only be 1/2 in.

I often carry a  spare hook in my  bounacy aid, in the unlikely  event that if I 'blow' the hook I can reload a new  one. 

 

 

 
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The latest 3000's use sealed masts and external halyards (main halyard runs in the luff groove). I've been quite surprised what a difference it has made - inversion is now a rarity.

A very rough calculation estimated that instead of 6 or 7 kg of mast pushing down, we now have 9kg nett buoyancy pushing up.
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we use a mast float when training and in club races we get 5 points on the handicap because of the loos off speed
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Maybe the answer is with the manufacturers.  Heavey masts that leak will make it very difficult to right the boat, so maybe they should start producing sealed masts that sink slower and are easier to pull back up?  I know the 800 has a sealed mast, for example.
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On second thoughts I'd better clarify.  The rig on a 4000 is heavy, not only is the aluminium mast long it also carries a mainsail with full length glassfibre battens.  Once the mast tip is under the water (and to leeward of the hull) my 13.5 stone (and using righting lines) will not prevent it from inverting.  I can only right the boat by pulling the boat so that the sail is upwind of the hull.  Thus any capsise to leeward means the boat is going to have to go inverted and then the rig pulled up on the windward side.  Thus if my crew is snagged she will drown.
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The trouble with the 4k is that one person will not stop it from inverting.  And its certainly true that you are unlikely to be able to cut somebody free in the doom and gloom underwater.

The only answer is get clear of the boat as soon as it capsises and don't have a single thing that can snag - so certainly no knives or sheaths on straps.
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I wear mine on a string round my neck or in a spray top pocket.  It is a folding one because I don't fancy having an open one, even in a sheath, that close to my body.  It is a mix of serrated and smooth blade.

Yes, it is better to get the boat upright asap, but I think feva sailor was worrying about how best to help him/herself if they are caught up under the boat.  I would only use my knife as an absolute last resort, but it is good to have it to hand for a real emergency.
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Posts: 186 		Post Options Post Options   Quote feva sailor Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Oct 08 at 3:25pm
where would i keep it?

I want to wear an over top because theres a few straps on my harness and alot seem to wear them over their Baids.
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Originally posted by RyanV49er

  Far better to stop arsing around, get weight on the side of the boat and bring her back up onto her side and hope like hell a rescue boat has seen your mayday calls and is on its way.

Absolutely. That was certainly the conclusion I drew after reading the report on last year's fatality in the 4k's.
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Knives are essential to have on board, but if you've ever been trapped under a sail, tied into the boat as it inverts or fell onto the kite in the water, you'll know that you never, ever, think "ok, there's a knife on the back of the boat".  You just end up working your arse off trying to untangle yourself. 

Also, if your crew or helm was under the boat and didn't come up, what could you do?  jump under the boat brandishing a knife, see under water in the doom and gloom, figure out how he's tied up, avoid his scrambling at you, and calmly uncut him?  That would never, ever happen.  Far better to stop arsing around, get weight on the side of the boat and bring her back up onto her side and hope like hell a rescue boat has seen your mayday calls and is on its way.
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