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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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700 is more stable than 600 and does feel a little bigger but dont be fooled into thinking its rock steady, its still a pretty tippy boat.
Kicker works fine, the only issue with the angled boom is that when pulling the main down you have to make sure that the outhaul is off or you'll rip the boltrope off. If anything the lever used on the musto skiff is the unusual approach but is the only sensible way, given the gooseneck is pretty much at the mast heel. Stability wise the 300 is probably marginally more unstable than the 600, purely down to the immersed beam, however you dont have the complication of hooking on and unhooking to move around in a 300. 700 hull shape is loosely derived from the 800, and it would be sensible to assume that some of the 500 styling is taken from the 800 as well, as its a recognisable feature of the RS brands |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Well it was based on an early prototype of what became the 800... |
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tmoore ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Nov 07 Location: Wales Online Status: Offline Posts: 880 |
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so more like a 500 say? (the hull/deck on the 500 and 700 look rather similar actually. even the layouts are quite similar considering how different the boats are meant to be.... just noticed the gooseneck is not at the base of the mast like the musto but rather slightly up the mast and with a conventional kicker. it looks slightly odd on that boat, does it still work as well with the angled boom? Edited by tmoore |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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I'd say similar. The 700 is more like a bigger boat. |
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tmoore ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Nov 07 Location: Wales Online Status: Offline Posts: 880 |
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everyone says about the instability of the 600, what is it like to the 300 and a 29er? both are unstable at slow speeds yet once moving simply require precise steering to maintain the balance. i am also considering a 700 because for that price the value is outstanding and i want something which will challenge and improve my sailing....
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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600s are quicker upwind. I know what ive seen at ciruit events and the 7s can't catch a 6 upwind but more than make up for it downwind. The 600 is better for club racing unless you get W/L courses cos you can reach around easily.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Smight at BBSC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Jan 07 Location: Great Britain Online Status: Offline Posts: 1129 |
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I think in the breeze the 600 would have the edge over the 700. Having raced against mustos, which are a similar speed up wind to the 700, the 600 is quicker when you have a nice force 5 on your hands.
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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Mike, I dont know which 700s you've been watching but the 7 is definately quicker upwind than the 600, as proven at many of the opens they have shared in the past.
Having previously owned a 600 and competed in the circuit for many years, and now owning a 700 I would agree that the deck layout of the 700 isnt as easy to live with as the 600 however this is compensated by the higher boom, also the extra stability of the 700 makes getting in off the wire and across the boat easier than with the 6, (its easier to stay standing up). For Kareir however, I would suggest that a 600 is probably for you the better boat to develop your skills in. With no singlehanded trapeze experience you are going to get very wet, and the boat will take a lot of punishment, and the 600 is in my opinion a little more robust than the 7. Spend a few years getting to grips with the 600 and if you are still enjoying it and the courses sailed at your club are predominantly W/L then move onto the 700 and you can then focus on learning the downwind technique without having to worry about tacking it. Paul |
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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"but the 600 IS quicker upwind " Are you sure? |
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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just a geuss but because the 600 is a completely different beast from anything else out there at all he might have not been able to get over the feeling of how a 600 glides to windward. The 7 may have a kite but the 600 IS quicker upwind and i reckon its more challenging to sail. because of the stupidly round hull shape its so twitchy and you will never really master it, there's always a bit more speed to be had out of it. I made the jump from laser to 600, with a bit of practice trapezing on a fireball and 800 in between but not much. its taken me a years worth of swimming to get it round a course without a capsize, and by god is it rewarding. obviously im slightly biased but i have sailed both boats. I much prefer the layout of the 600 to the 7, i dont like how you have such a step out over all the lumpy bits in the cockpit of a 7. Edited by mike ellis |
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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