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    Posted: 15 Mar 08 at 11:46pm
I would like to see a bit more joined up government.  In my area instead of supporting our local schools we have a status lead system.  In consequence we now have thousands of parents driving kids all over the place (often in inappropriate vehicles).  During school holidays the roads are considerably quieter.  During term time I know there are many kids having to leave for school at 7:30 am rather than walk around the corner to their local school.  Get this sorted and we can save a lot of CO2.
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upping prices p***es everyone off if they really wanted 4x4s off the road just introduce a law to ban them they have for everything else, speed as much as it is plastered about doesnt kill its bad driving at the end of the day.

i'd love to use my car less save the planet all that perhaps i should move closer to work but i cant why as the labour governemnt have held interest rates low which has allowed irresponsible lending meaning house prices have gone through the roof, so now i cant afford a house and soon i wont be able to run my car.

job done i think where do i sign for the dole???

the governement needs the taxes to pay off the northern rock fiasco i live in newcastle and if a bank goes bust it goes bust end of shoudlnt be given help as they were careless dont remeber seeing rover get the same treatment etc

END of the DAY we live in rip off britain i cant call it great anymore as its been spoilt by years of abuse in all areas of governement

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I have been out of work and claimed benifit and its maybe not as easy as people make out; you get very little money and there is load of quite difficult paper work to compleat. The people you talk to had no interest in helping me to find work and just seemed to be there to make life more miserable.
I do feel though that if you want it there is nearly always work some where. I feel that after a period of time unemployed rather than get money you should just be given food and basic clothing and get basic living cost paid for, nothing extra.
Posisble a bit harsh but I'm fed up of watching a woman on my road send her little s*** of to school with a splif in her mouth. Oh the joys of Plymouth.

As for the car thing I'm just not sure that it will make a difference to towing as I plan to continue with sailing, I'l just cut down on the shandy. We are thinking about getting rid of our second car as things get more expensive (no tow bar on that)
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Originally posted by 29er310

Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

I don't understand how it doesn't get boring.. Surely spending all your money on cigerettes, drink and other substances, living in some nasty council flat with no hobbies gets pretty dull!!!

Well it does of course... these people lead more awful lives than you can possibly imagine... And as far as they can see the only way to live better is to steal and deal drugs... This is one appalling society for these people to live in, and there doesn't seem to be any way out..

Spoken like a true lefty

Actually he has a point.  What we now have in this country is an very materialistic society where we idolise the idol rich.  A lot of people who don't have a lot believe they have a right to it but don't see that hard work and graft is the way to achieve it.  In short to some extent many of us now want something for nothing.  Can anyone here really imagine living the same life as a miner at the turn of the century when there was virtually no social mobility.  Until hard work, commitment and resposibilty are placed higher on the agenda than rights and social equality then this will continue to perpetuate.  I no more blame someone bought up on a sink estate for choosing the easy option (giro/drug dealing etc) than I blame someone living in a shack in Africa for wanting to get into this country.  It is human nature.

Mind you despite what the Daily Mail would have us believe the majority of people in the country a law abiding hard work tax paying folk.
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Spoken like a true lefty

First time I've *ever* been called that!

No, if I was a lefty I'd believe that massive state support, state planning etc would be the way to make things better, and I don't believe that works at all. I don't know what does work though: I don't see anywhere in the world that's really cracked the problems.
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Originally posted by 29er310

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

 

Also this might seem slightly harsh but I really don't think immigrants EU or not should be given benefits and free housing... They are just coming in and milking it?

Please correct me if I am wrong but I was not aware the migrants from inside the EU were able to claim benefits in the UK without citizenship which from what I have heard from a foreign member of my family is pretty hard to come buy. It does depend on what you mean by benefits, for instance the NHS is a public good and in my opinion it should be open to working migrants from the EU.

 

You are wrong as long as you are a citizen of an EU country you can qualify for residential benefits including Health Service. There have even been instances recently of eastern European migrants claiming child benefit for children that they have back in there father county!!!

 

Its all so corrupt it stinks!
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by Chris Bridges

I don't understand how it doesn't get boring.. Surely spending all your money on cigerettes, drink and other substances, living in some nasty council flat with no hobbies gets pretty dull!!!

Well it does of course... these people lead more awful lives than you can possibly imagine... And as far as they can see the only way to live better is to steal and deal drugs... This is one appalling society for these people to live in, and there doesn't seem to be any way out..

Spoken like a true lefty

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Originally posted by Chris Bridges

I don't understand how it doesn't get boring.. Surely spending all your money on cigerettes, drink and other substances, living in some nasty council flat with no hobbies gets pretty dull!!!

Well it does of course... these people lead more awful lives than you can possibly imagine... And as far as they can see the only way to live better is to steal and deal drugs... This is one appalling society for these people to live in, and there doesn't seem to be any way out..
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Let's face it we've got to do something to get those big 4x4s off the road.  They are gross and a pain for everybody else. Have you tried to park next to them in a multi story or met one coming down a narrow country lane and have you noticed how they wobble across two lanes when going around roundabouts.  Most of them are hopeless off road - if you want something effective off road then use a Landrover.

I love a good 4x4 when crossing deserts, fording rivers and exploring logging tracks, but they are inapproprite on tarmac and especially on our crowded roads.  I think some people drive them in the miss-guided idea that they are safer however they don't stop as quick as a modern car and having a high centre of gravity they topple over more easily. 

Road tax is probably the best way to discourage them since this will not affect farmers very much since they drive effective 4x4s like landrovers which with a 2.5ltr diesel is economical and can better any other 4x4 when off the road.

I used to trail a Scorpion all over the country with a 600cc 35bhp car - that was pushing it, but possible.  I now drive a 80bhp lightwieght car which copes very well with a 4000 which is a heavy boat.  I once trailed the 4000 non stop to Garda in less than a day - no problem with 97bhp.  Big 4x4s are rarely justified.
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True, what a barrel of laughs that is...  Probably not got a tv license either...
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