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   Fresh Scum is correct the only hails that have any meaning in the rules are "Room to Tack", which may have the reply "You Tack", these only has meaning when used in the correct situation, and "Protest".

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Calum_Reid Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 09 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 59	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calum_Reid Report Post Quote Reply Topic: How long is reasonable to take avoiding Posted: 23 Oct 07 at 11:39am
	Fresh Scum is correct the only hails that have any meaning in the rules are "Room to Tack", which may have the reply "You Tack", these only has meaning when used in the correct situation, and "Protest".


FreshScum Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 27 Apr 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 99	Post Options Post Reply Quote FreshScum Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 07 at 11:26am
	You only have to hail for water/room to tack. Not for rounding and passing a mark or obstruction. Obviously it helps in the second case though, to let the other boat know you're about to go between them and something which might cause some damage! Rule 19. http://sailing.org/20348.php Edited by FreshScum

jeffers Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048	Post Options Post Reply Quote jeffers Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 07 at 8:31am
	There are only 2 requirements in the RRS to hail: 1) For water 2) Protest Aside from that if you are not in a position where you know you have right of way over pretty much everything then keep a look out (I believe that is required by the RRS but not sure of a rule number). In the protest roo the Port boat would not have a leg to stand on and would be asked to retire (or DSQ'd) in very short order. Regards, Paul
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Contender 541 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 05 Dec 05 Location: Burton on Trent Online Status: Offline Posts: 1402	Post Options Post Reply Quote Contender 541 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Oct 07 at 8:08am
	Starboard Hail is just an advisory, it is the responsibility of the people on the course to be aware of what is going on around them. Hail of Protest is required though after they have hit you!!
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Stuart O Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 22 Jul 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 514	Post Options Post Reply Quote Stuart O Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 07 at 7:31pm
	No nee to hail....BUT IT HELPS

Guest Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 21 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 0	Post Options Post Reply Quote Guest Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 07 at 5:51pm
	What NeilP says ...

Worthy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Worthy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 07 at 5:33pm
	I believe there is not even a requirement to hail starboard!! (someone please correct me if I'm wrong here).

Scooby_simon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 02 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2415	Post Options Post Reply Quote Scooby_simon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 07 at 5:08pm
	thanks everyone, you are all confirming my view of this. Just looking for chapter and verse when I talk to the other helm.
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NeilP Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 271	Post Options Post Reply Quote NeilP Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Oct 07 at 5:03pm
	There's no requirement to give time. The only way you could be in the wrong here is if you changed course without allowing ROOM to keep clear, or if you allowed a collision to occur which was avoidable AND which caused damage. Completely clear-cut, I'm afraid. In any case, the rules only ever require that you give room to keep clear, not time. Of course, the two may end up amounting to very much the same thing!!
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Worthy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 511	Post Options Post Reply Quote Worthy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 21 Oct 07 at 9:30pm
	You only need to give reasonable time before the start. After that, as long as you are not in the middle of a gybe/tack tough sh*t, the port boat is in the wrong.