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    Posted: 26 Feb 07 at 7:40pm

You may find when they converted your boat and made it wider. They my have taken the lead out as they were putting lots more weight into making the boat a few inches wider . it is not like they just pulled the racks out one more hole!
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Or just not detect obviously metal parts on the boat, if they are causing that much difficulty with the scanner, remove them, then scan the bear hull. If you are going to cut chunks out of a hull to remove lead, removing fittings isn't that difficult a job in comparison.
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Can you not adjust the sensitivity of a detector?
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but  surely a metal detector will not have the pin point accuracy your looking for as you boat (esp. a 14) is covered with metal fixings.....
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Originally posted by Merlinboy

Originally posted by Andrewst

As the other member of the crew I know the boat is heavy as it is a converted penultimate. Its measurement certificate shows it has been weighted as a penultimate so would be overweight. We are purly interessted in TASA events so remeasuring may not be an issue.

There is a cover to the daggerboard slot so will have a look there.

 

But surely sailing a boat that is underweight is against tasa rules ?? Otherwise the handicap would have to be adjusted

 

As I said it is a converted penultimate. The current rules have reduced the minimum weight. I dont belive the lead has been removed as there is no mention on the certificate. The boat just remains overweight.

 

There should not be an issue class rules wise as the boat will still be overweight without the lead.

 

The metal detector sounds a good idea!



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You could always go to your local tool hire shop and hire a metal detector for the afternoon to locate the lead.
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Originally posted by Franco

You will be lucky if you get a penultimate 14 down to the current rules (74.25kg) even if you do the boat would not be competitive to the current handicap.

Strictly speaking you should have the boat re-weighed by a 14 measurer.

If you have not allready found your lead, I would expect it has allready been removed probably when it was converted to the new rules, and not remeasured at that time.  



Looking at my boat's (GBR1333) history in her docs, this is exactly what happened when she was modified.
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You will be lucky if you get a penultimate 14 down to the current rules (74.25kg) even if you do the boat would not be competitive to the current handicap.

Strictly speaking you should have the boat re-weighed by a 14 measurer.

If you have not allready found your lead, I would expect it has allready been removed probably when it was converted to the new rules, and not remeasured at that time.  
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Yep because if it doesn't conform to I-14 rules, it isn't an I-14.  
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Originally posted by Andrewst

As the other member of the crew I know the boat is heavy as it is a converted penultimate. Its measurement certificate shows it has been weighted as a penultimate so would be overweight. We are purly interessted in TASA events so remeasuring may not be an issue.

There is a cover to the daggerboard slot so will have a look there.

 

But surely sailing a boat that is underweight is against tasa rules ?? Otherwise the handicap would have to be adjusted
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