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    Posted: 15 Oct 06 at 10:23am

The answer is easy.

By the first twin trap boat.

45 kg = light, lighter than a chureb

easy to right light crews are around 115kg

A 12 footer.

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Or there is another cherub for sale on the website. HERE It's got a pukka 97 rules rig and is a quick design. Think it needs a bit of DIY to get it on the water but she will be a real weapon specially if you get the hang of it! I'm sure there are enough people about locally depending on where you live who could get you on the water in a weekend or a few evenings.
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At your weight you won't be underpowered in the Spice.  Having said that, there aren't many about racing - its the Iso/Buzz/Spice/Boss open at my club this weekend, and think I only saw two Spice's.  No Boss' turned up FYI.  Loads of ISO's and Buzzes however. 

Spice looks nice enough, heard its slow upwind but its twin trap, so when you're a bit heavier you can get a 5000, which is an excellent step towards the 18ft Skiff... If you have ambitions. 
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seems like spice is the way to go then...

underpowered is fine for our first twin trapeze boat, and we do not want to be going too fast 'cos st mawes bay is not that big!
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Originally posted by Granite


Originally posted by SetSail

Don't get me wrong, the spice isn't fantastic, but for
lightweight crews looking for a twin wire experience, cheap up keep and
fun, its pretty good. Under powered is what its supposed to be so its
more manageable. It is worth the consideration in my opinion, despite the
cons, which im sure im about to get a list of as long as my arm....
The trouble is that underpowered is the last thing you want in a
twin string boat.If you have to wait till its dogs off chains to get two
stringing it is just not worth the hastle and you would be quicker sailing it
single string.



It's only underpowered if you are to heavy. Same as any boat. I would
agree with SetSail that the Spice isn't the greatest performance boat in the
world... but for cheap summer fun sailing on some nice swell in a 3 /4 off
St Mawes it would be great, low cost, low mainternace and low on the
RNLI's list of things to do that day... cos it's managable in pretty much all
conditions. I'd be happy with that sailing unsupported.

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There really is a gap in the market for a fun but easy to learn twin wire boat now. I guess the problem is, is that people will spend a season in it and move on to an 800.

This may have been why the 3k had bad times, people sailed it a bit and then got good enough for the 4k/whatever.
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Originally posted by SetSail

Don't get me wrong, the spice isn't fantastic, but for lightweight crews looking for a twin wire experience, cheap up keep and fun, its pretty good. Under powered is what its supposed to be so its more manageable. It is worth the consideration in my opinion, despite the cons, which im sure im about to get a list of as long as my arm....




The trouble is that underpowered is the last thing you want in a twin string boat.

If you have to wait till its dogs off chains to get two stringing it is just not worth the hastle and you would be quicker sailing it single string.
If it doesn't break it's too heavy; if it does it wasn't built right
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Don't get me wrong, the spice isn't fantastic, but for lightweight crews looking for a twin wire experience, cheap up keep and fun, its pretty good. Under powered is what its supposed to be so its more manageable. It is worth the consideration in my opinion, despite the cons, which im sure im about to get a list of as long as my arm....
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.......sorry, hadn't read that part but totally agree. Sailed the Spice once, when it was breezy, terribly under powered, not well fitted out and wouldn't choose to do so again. Think 4000s are cracking boats and if it was me looking for a boat with a small budget and being in a lighter weight category, there would be no doubt in my mind about buying one. In comparision, the day which I sailed the Spice, I also went out in the same conditions in the afternoon on a 470 and the 470 seemed a rocket ship in comparison.
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