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tack'ho ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100 |
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The hostility to the CII rig came mostly from the north American sailors, where it is much more established youth class, however the standard or classic rig as we now call it, is pretty much dead for international contests as far as I can tell and doesn't support quite as wide a weight band. The hulls last forever as well, the guy who came a very convincing second in the open this weekend is ahem (forgive me Ray) well seasoned, as is his boat, but he was certainly not lacking for boatspeed except against the very good sailor who came first. The competetive age range is really good as well from a kids right up to the more mature. DO IT you know you want to!!!
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I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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tickel ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 408 |
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A very experienced sailor at our little Derbyshire club pops down once in a while and thrashes us all in his CII Byte. It is a very old hull and he is not in the first flush of youth. He is very light for a man, possibly only 8 stone (I dont do this metric thing) and he popped over to Grafham last year, because he had nothing better to do, and won the inlands. I was there watching my boy in the Lightning inlands. All the Byte sailors seemed quite diminutive but they are lovely little boats and look modern too.
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mike ellis ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2339 |
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a C11 thingy sailed at my club once a couple of weeks ago. it went about the same speed as the lasers. it did have john pink in it though.
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600 732, will call it Sticks and Stones when i get round to it.
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Thanks for the Byte CII info, all. The rig looked good but there seems
to be some hostility towards it (as well as those for it) on the Byte
forum.
One thing I really liked was the way the builder was going to sell the rig at cost (or close to it) to association members so they could update the whole rig for the cost of a new main. Great way to update a class without stuffing up existing owners and therefore losing your numbers. |
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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Thanks for that. It's always good to hear from people that have actually
sailed the boat in question. In fact it would be good to hear from some Splash / Flash sailors! Anybody out there? |
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Prince Buster ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 15 Dec 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1146 |
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Jack I started in the Laser Radial when i was just a wee 45kg and I was
severely overpowered when it got windy. I then sold the laser,
bought a byte c11 for a season and had fantastic time in all wind
strengths and was never really overpowered. I then decided I
wanted better racing so i sold the byte and bought a radial again but
at 50kg was still properly mashed by the big guys when the wind picked
up.
the moral of the story.........get a C11 Byte!! |
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international moth - "what what?"
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Blobby ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 May 04 Location: Australia Online Status: Offline Posts: 779 |
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Jack - the simple message is 40Kg and up can sail the boat very competitively, as can those up to 70 to 75 Kg. Your missus at 48kg would be absolutely fine. Chris249 - my opinion is that the CII rig works extremely well - balancing traveller, mainsheet, kicker and downhaul lets you get the leech exactly where you want it to be and the fullness in the sail where it needs to be and the gust response is superb. I can't claim to having masses of time in the boat but in Phuket I sailed against a kid from the japanese yout squad in 5 - 8kts. He was about 50kg and we were essentially neck & neck around the course so I would say I was still competitive. |
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One step forwards, 2 steps back...
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Jack Sparrow ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2965 |
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You're no convincing me that 48 kgs is a good idea with what you just
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tack'ho ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Feb 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1100 |
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world champ weighs 73kgs, top team in the world IMHO comes from singapore weight low!! It is an excellent rig. I'm at the top end 68kgs and have only just started in the boat and was competetive aginst 2 europes in force 1 gusting 2 sailed by 2 decent sailors who are loads lighter than me. They beat me by 2 mins in a 70 min race so about right on handicap and i've still got lots learn about the boat.
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I might be sailing it, but it's still sh**e!
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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So it works that well then? I had a go of Ian's boat when he and Julian were still playing with it. It seemed to be pretty good but I had nothing to compare it with. Interesting to hear you say it has the weight range Ian wanted. Was your weight competitive? |
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