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Originally posted by JimC

Of course we can't agree. But if you restrict the thing to the pinnacle of one design racing there's no way its not the Olympics. The pressure level is an order of magnitude greater than Laser Worlds.

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Of course we can't agree. But if you restrict the thing to the pinnacle of one design racing there's no way its not the Olympics. The pressure level is an order of magnitude greater than Laser Worlds.

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I think the Laser Worlds is a harder challenge due to the size of the fleet.

 

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Olympic games? Let's revive the thread!!
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Could we agree on the pinnacle of dinghy racing?

Laser Worlds?

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Originally posted by JimC



Putting Smith in Elvstroms league is pretty optimistic to say the least. I think even he would be embarrassed.

I met him a couple of times and he stuck me as a confident sort of chap..... not the kind to feel embarrassed by being talked about, or considered Elvis' league...... the king lives!!!!

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

If Lawrie is only 50, what's he done lately? Seems to have given up sailing completely, or does anyone know better?


Perhaps sponsors have got bored with him breaking stuff and not finishing:-)

More likely the demise of cigarette sponsorship hit him very hard as they were his normal option.

Putting Smith in Elvstroms league is pretty optimistic to say the least. I think even he would be embarrassed.

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so we cannot agree.  The reason being that we have differnt sports / skills

Olympics is small fleet racing, so a premium on boat speed.

Large fleet worlds - also boat speed, but starting becomes veryu important and the ability to get your self out of a problem

Short off shore type races, spee, tactics loacl knowledge

Longer off shore (fastnet, Hobart etc).  Speed, skills in boat prep, Nav etc

Longer races VOR - speed, boat prep, Nav, routing, weather etc

Long single handed / Non stop races - speed, boat prep and the ability to fix on the move etc, Nav, Weather, routing, sleep stress etc.

 

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Originally posted by gordon

I would also point out that we have been talking almost exclusively of helmsmen/women. People who twiddle bits of wood, or steel, at the more comforable end of the boat are in a minority in our sport.

Thats a very good point.... who can recall the name of the guy who crewed Rodney Pats to 3 gold medals.... you know, whatsisname...... and that guy with the beard at the front of Smiths Fireball......, thingamejig. Come to mention it, Ive forgotten my own crews name.... you know, bob, no rob, no andy.....oh.... whatsameblokey, with the red life jacket.

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Originally posted by Stefan Lloyd

[Not sure the comparison between sailing and horsey-stuff stands up that well. Large numbers of people seem to find horsey-games entertaining viewing. Now if we only could get the public betting on the outcome of sailing races, we'd be laughing all the way to the bank.

The point is that nobody pretends that all the different types of competetive activity involving our four legged friend are the same sport. We refer to equestrian sports (using the plural). I believe that we should talk about sailing sportS, a family of related sports using wind-powered floating objects (to include the windsurfers).

In which case there cannot be one pinnacle but several. Few manage to attain the summits in several disciplines - i would suggest that someone like Paul Cayard is one of them.

I would also point out that we have been talking almost exclusively of helmsmen/women. People who twiddle bits of wood, or steel, at the more comforable end of the boat are in a minority in our sport.

 

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