which boat??

   What sort of boat do you think would be suitable for a 17st bloke to take his two teenage daughters out in well ones 10 and the others 13 .I currently have a 505 which i desperately do not want to part with but I can only take them out in pretty light winds as they arent very experienced and obviously arent heavy enough.I would want to do some racing and be competetive at club level.Now at my club the main two handed fleet are RS400's and as much as i'd like to buy one I can't afford it!!!It would have to be 2 person or 1 and two smallish people dinghy preferably with spinnaker and maybee a trapeze espacially now the youngest one has started to like the idea.Was thinking 420,or maybe fireball what do you reckon ????Or should I keep the 5'oh and turn them into proper sailors.Answers on a postcard please!!!

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jamesint505 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Groupie Joined: 18 Feb 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 75	Post Options Post Reply Quote jamesint505 Report Post Quote Reply Topic: which boat?? Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 2:23pm
	What sort of boat do you think would be suitable for a 17st bloke to take his two teenage daughters out in well ones 10 and the others 13 .I currently have a 505 which i desperately do not want to part with but I can only take them out in pretty light winds as they arent very experienced and obviously arent heavy enough.I would want to do some racing and be competetive at club level.Now at my club the main two handed fleet are RS400's and as much as i'd like to buy one I can't afford it!!!It would have to be 2 person or 1 and two smallish people dinghy preferably with spinnaker and maybee a trapeze espacially now the youngest one has started to like the idea.Was thinking 420,or maybe fireball what do you reckon ????Or should I keep the 5'oh and turn them into proper sailors.Answers on a postcard please!!!
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tgruitt Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479	Post Options Post Reply Quote tgruitt Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 3:19pm
	420's are great to learn in, stable, fairly fast and give good teaching with a symetric spinnaker which you dont have to use if you dont want to. They're also dead easy to trapeze on! Or possibly a laser 2000, you can get a trapeze kit for it? Good luck in finding a boat!
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Peter Rhodes Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter Rhodes Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 3:27pm
	how about a merlin rocket

tgruitt Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 02 Dec 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2479	Post Options Post Reply Quote tgruitt Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 3:32pm
	or a national 12, but you probably can't get three people in a national 12 or merlin rocket sensibly! merlins are great boats though. what about an albacore or something like that?
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IanW Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 17 Mar 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 115	Post Options Post Reply Quote IanW Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 4:10pm
	Albacore is the definatly the answer it will carry your weight well and be an easy intro to sailing for the girls. You are also allowed in class rules to race 3 up Should be able to get a competitive club racer for under £1500 and they are also having there Worlds in the UK this year at Lyme regis which should be a good event. Edited by IanW

lozza Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 23 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 262	Post Options Post Reply Quote lozza Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 4:47pm
	My advice is to stick with the 505. If the rig is set up correctly, you can easily depower the boat on the water. The 505 is more forgiving, more stable and has that extra bit of speed to interest the youngsters. Sheet loads shouldn't be much more than for the albacore or merlin either.
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Peter Rhodes Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 24 Apr 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 171	Post Options Post Reply Quote Peter Rhodes Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 6:07pm
	I wasn't sugesting you lose the 505

sailor.jon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 02 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 361	Post Options Post Reply Quote sailor.jon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 7:37pm
	the twelve may be too tippy, you can get hold of old 420's cheap that will be competative at club level, there great boats to learn to trapeze in n all
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Chris _Laser2 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 15 Aug 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 23	Post Options Post Reply Quote Chris _Laser2 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 8:28pm
	Laser 2's are easy to pick up, easy to sail, and can be fun in a bit of wind. Can also be sailed single handed if the kids want to stay on shore.
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simsy Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 14 Jun 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 158	Post Options Post Reply Quote simsy Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jun 05 at 10:09pm
	Being a Laser 2 sailor myself, they are great fun when theres a breeze, however they can be a bit on the small size IMO, and i think you would struggle to fit 3 people in one comfortably!!